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Atheism is defined as the lack or absence of belief in a deity or deities, whereas religion is defined as the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. So it's beyond moronic to claim atheism is a religion, as they are the antithesis of each other.
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"@Sheldon what objective evidence can you demonstrate that any deity exists
Consequence is NO COINCIDENCE."
So you can't demonstrate any objective evidence then, quelle surprise. Islam is a vapid unevidenced superstition, like all other religions.
@ matheist
Sheldon: "You're lying to try and redefine atheism"
matheist: "That is Logic."
You just cannot get any lower on the Sapience Scale. Since when are your lies logic?
rmfr
You can try to weasel about as much as you want matheist...
However, the point is, you cannot objectively, empirically demonstrate that your wanky imaginary friend exists.
You are no more better then a child who believes in Santa...
You are no superior to a kid who believes in the tooth fairy...
Essentially you are the equivalent of a schizophrenic who thinks he's napoleon, covered in his own shit, all whilst shouting at a wall in his padded cell.
Time to grow up.
You first.
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/atheism-religion-0?pag...
Burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim, especially an exceptional one.
That's on you...
I'm a naturalist, an animist and believe in natural justice. Nature's God.
You believe in forced justice (fabrication) and has no basis in this reality.
The Political Jurisprudence (vs. Ecological Jurisprudence or Ecological Justice)
What is your Truth?
What makes you difference from all religious people?
What is your proof?
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Haha bollocks are you!
You're just the same as all the others, quoting your scripture, misrepresenting peoples views, being intellectually dishonest and shifting the burden of proof.
Now come on... show any empirical evidence, absolutely anything.
Chop chop.
You need to bring proof before it can be valid.
What makes it right or wrong?
Claim + Reason + Proof
"What makes it right or wrong?"
No one needs to claim it is wrong, or even to know it is wrong.The fact that you can demonstrate no objective evidence for your belief, is enough of an epistemological reason to disbelieve it.
I don't believe your superstition's deity is any more real than Thor or Zeus, and shall continue to disbelieve it until you can demonstrate some objective evidence to support your belief.
Wouldn't surprise me if matheist was another pathetic sock puppet account. he's definitely a troll, that much is clear.
Try LOGIC.
Try not posting vapid cryptic nonsense.
Nothing you have asserted is a rational argument for any deity.
That is irrationality.
Truth does not belong to Atheism alone. Sorry, that is the fact.
accordingly
dogmatism. the tendency to lay down principles as undeniably true, without consideration of evidence or the opinions of others.
Atheism is a religion.
"That is irrationality."
That is yet another unevidenced claim.
"Truth does not belong to Atheism alone. Sorry, that is the fact."
That is another straw man fallacy, as I never claimed it did. Again if you're going to posture about logic it's probably best to understand what common logical fallacies are and what it means when you use them.
Nice dishonest edit of your post,, so I'll address the rest now you altered it.
Matheist " dogmatism. the tendency to lay down principles as undeniably true,"
As you keep doing about your fatuous superstitious beliefs you mean?
"without consideration of evidence or the opinions of others."
You have yet to demonstrate any evidence, so there is none to consider, and unevidenced opinion is meaningless, Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
matheism "Atheism is a religion."
No it isn't, atheism is the lack or absence of belief in a deity or deities, whereas religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Again it's beyond moronic t persist with this lie, especially on here, but if embarrassing yourself is your bag knock yourself out.
You're self-contradicting and merely insisting on your blind claims.
It does not in any way answer the argument in this thread.
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/atheism-religion-0?pag...
Two more unevidenced claims, still no objective evidence. try again...
matheist: "Try LOGIC."
You ain't demonstrated any yourself. We have.
Perhaps you should go and crawl back under that bridge.
rmfr
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Please answer this issue
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/atheism-religion-0?pag...
Ah I see... just restating the question again and again even after we've already dismantled it at least 10 times by now... yep, you're either a troll or a Poe.
I'm inclined to agree, and for the record said so at the start. Anyone who tries to assert a lack of belief in a deity is actually a belief in a deity, well it's a no brainer.
If your a naturalist demonstrate some objective evidence for your puerile superstition. As all you've managed thus far is the moronically cliched lie that atheism is a religion, in order to try and reverse the burden of proof, these asinine claims are ten a penny on here from theists of all stripes. The claim that your deity is energy, is equally risible nonsense, that offers no evidence and has no explanatory powers, no different to the moron in another thread who claimed god is love, as if the existence of this emotion then evidences the existence of their deity.
it's a special kind of stupidity that thinks redefining an unevidenced deity as something tangible we already have evidence and an explanation for, somehow makes the belief in that deity valid. You could use such 'arguments' to believe in literally anything.
Try this: Garden fairies are energy, now apply that risible nonsense you posted in the other thread, and explain why the argument for garden fairies is any less valid than for your hokum superstition.
You're not being profound, only profoundly stupid, but each to their own, but you'll find that such fatuous nonsense will get short shrift here.
The claim that your deity is energy, is equally risible nonsense, that offers no evidence and has no explanatory powers, no different to the moron in another thread who claimed god is love, as if the existence of this emotion then evidences the existence of their deity.
What is there other than Energy?
Sheldon "The claim that your deity is energy, is equally risible nonsense, that offers no evidence and has no explanatory powers, no different to the moron in another thread who claimed god is love, as if the existence of this emotion then evidences the existence of their deity."
Matheist "What is there other than Energy?"
Straw man fallacy. If you're going to pretend your hokum beliefs have logic on their side it's probably best to avoid using common logical fallacies like this.
There are things other than Energy?
A. Yes
B. No
A or B?
You're missing the point, deliberately?
What objective evidence can you demonstrate for any deity? Do note the word objective in there...
You can make the argument about deity in here:
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/allah-energy
This is the thread for Atheism is a Religion, and which you clearly have no counterargument.
Matheist "You can make the argument about deity in here:"
I need no argument agaisnt your unevidenced belief, and I will post whatever i am minded to, wherever I wish, get over it.
Matheist "This is the thread for Atheism is a Religion, and which you clearly have no counterargument."
Liar, here are a few of my posts refuting your moronic claim in this thread
(1) http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/atheism-religion-0?pag...
(2) http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/atheism-religion-0?pag...
(3) http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/atheism-religion-0?pag...
Here it is again since you have lied:
Atheism is defined as the lack or absence of belief in a deity or deities, whereas religion is defined as the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. So it's beyond moronic to claim atheism is a religion, as they are the antithesis of each other.
@matheist
Actually we have so far posted, like, so many counterarguments.
Quantum fields.
@ matheist
You asserted a preposterous and crazy and laughable (HA!) and insane and foolish and idiotic and irrational and unbelievable claim.
Do you even know what “Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit non ei qui negat” means? It is Latin for “He who says he does have the burden of proof lies.” Thus, I guess you are a liar because you refuse to carry your “Onus Probandi.” Thus, get off your lazy ass and go find that OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.
Otherwise, you are a trolling. The lowest WWW life form.
rmfr
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