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My proof is Nature's God... Natural Order. The one you're living it right now.
Allah/Energy is the LordLaw of the Universe. (Quran 1:2)
It is the ecological justice.
There is no science without this LordLaw.
So what is your Truth?
atheism. n. disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Why?
"My proof is Nature's God... Natural Order. The one you're living it right now."
That's a claim, a claim for evidence or proof is not actually evidence or proof see.
"Allah/Energy is the LordLaw of the Universe. (Quran 1:2)"
The koran can no more evidence it's claims than Harry Potter or any other book.
"There is not even science without these LordLaw."
Another meaningless vapid claim, still no evidence.
"So what is your Truth?"
Truth isn't subjective, therefore is cannot be mine, anymore than it can be yours.
"Why?"
Why what?
What objective evidence can you demonstrate for any deity?
1- I'm an Atheist, show me my god
or
2- Nature/Energy is your god. Show me your god
I suspect you will produce neither.
@matheist AHA! Circular reasoning! "My proof for my belief in Allah is Allah". Makes perfect. Fucking. Sense!
"My proof is Nature's God... Natural Order. The one you're living it right now."
That's a claim, a claim for evidence or proof is not actually evidence or proof see.
That is absurd. I have no further argument from you.
No it's not absurd at all, a claim cannot be evidenced by another claim, only a moron would think it could, and I think I'm starting to see the problem. Simply pointing at the natural world and claiming "goddidit" is profoundly stupid.
" I have no further argument from you."
I think you mean for you, but I'm not sure you have offered any argument yet, certainly nothing approaching cogent rational argument, and definitely no objective evidence.
What objective evidence can you demonstrate for any deity?
Premise 1: Who is an Atheist?
Pure Agnostic: God's existence and non-existence are exactly EQUIPROBABLE.
Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists, but I'm declined to be SKEPTICAL.
De-facto Atheist: I cannot know for certain, but I think God is very IMPROBABLE.
Premise 2: "Equiprobable, skeptical, improbable" means:
1. Disbelief in God(s)
2. Belief in God(s)
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Conclusion: Atheism is a religion with 320,000,000 Gods
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Matheist " (my)* Conclusion: Atheism is a religion"
Your conclusion is still moronic. Atheism is defined as the lack or absence of belief in a deity or deities, whereas religion is defined as the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. So it's beyond moronic to claim atheism is a religion, as they are the antithesis of each other.
@stuffin
Here is Allah
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I don't know, are you saying the statements in that pic is your god?
You narrowly define something and then leave the reader with two choices and both choices make you correct.
I really don't know what you're trying to prove.
I would like you to prove the first statement in that attachment you posted: ALLAH is the light of everything.
Allah is the Light. (Quran 24:35)
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Can we get an admin on this guy? He's just pretty much spamming nonsense at this point.
That's supposed to be your evidence- a meme with what appears to be a photoshopped supernova and a bunch of flowery-sounding bullshit from no source other than your favorite storybook- in other words, the hypothesis to be proven? LMFAO that is just sad.
This kid's a special kind of special, isn't he?
Reminds me when Sam Elliot said in one of his movies, "You are special kind of stupid aren't you?"
rmfr
That's what I was THINKING but wasn't sure I could get away with posting it.
Still really new here and getting a feel for the place :)
So essentially his arguement is simply we can view an object as it is or as energy.
It just so happens that he calls the energy Allah,
But by the same token we could energy anything in that case...
Bob
Dave
Shirley
Bruce Lee
Still, he needs to demonstrate an Allah can even exist?
Furthermore, what he is proposing has the following issues:
- Energy isn't everything there is, there are fields which can move energy but are separate entities.
- This energy is underpinned by the laws of physics and nature... thus, his God isn't what is special.
can move energy
"Energy, in physics, the capacity for doing work."
Fields are separate entities.
Also, in cosmology, how about radiation? Which isn't made of energy, although it carries energy from place to place; it consists as an oscillation in the electromagnetic field
Not energy as you are trying awfully to describe it.
Either way your premise relies on your subjective opinion that you name energy as Allah.
That's beyond stupid, everyone of us could pull that card without a shred of proof!
Again, why not Buddah? Why not Aries? Why not Odin? Why not Bob Marley?
It is ENERGY
1. Allah is the Light of Everything (Quran 24:35)
(the maximum number for everything is "1")
THEN
2. Light/Energy upon Light/Energy (Quran 24:35) <- the transformation of Energy, ie. creationism.
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Awesome!
So you clearly have no grasp of physics, misrepresent dictionary definitions and try to make a logical argument whilst shifting the burden of proof.
Another crap apologist who has no idea what they're on about.
And stop with the shit memes, you're acting like a flat earther.
@matheist Just throwing in science does not make what you say automatically make sense. That still doesn't explain how something is your invisible friend because a 1400 year old storybook told you so and it's legitimate because it says it's legitimate... nice try
@ Nyarlathotep
Hey, can we get another one of those "Agree/Disagree" posts?
rmfr
Matheist - (the maximum number for everything is "1")
Is zero (0) a number?
Holy sheep-dip...If you guys REALLY want your heads to hurt, go to the blog in his profile and look at THAT sack of horse-shit he has posted.
That accounts for everything he's posted on this site.
And their forum boards...
I have already sent them an email and a PM to the board admins. I know I am going to be blocked by them. But what I sent is so funny (to me at least), they are going to go nuclear pissed off...
rmfr
Fuck me that forum is funny! Lol
"Fuck me that forum is funny! Lol"
You're not wrong, wall to wall crackpots in there. I also agree that this guy is "special", even by the standards apologists set on here.
http://www.sunnatullah.com/e-quranic-epistemology/epistemological-questi...
It's still piss your pants funny on his forum of 2 people...
On this particular page he asks many questions which make for interesting reading then answers them himself with quotes from that arse rag of a holy book.
You did everything ... and say everything... EXCEPT
Make the counterargument on this thread:
Premise 1: Who is an Atheist?
Pure Agnostic: God's existence and non-existence are exactly EQUIPROBABLE.
Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists, but I'm declined to be SKEPTICAL.
De-facto Atheist: I cannot know for certain, but I think God is very IMPROBABLE.
Premise 2: "Equiprobable, skeptical, improbable" means:
1. Disbelief in God(s)
2. Belief in God(s)
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Conclusion: Atheism is a religion with 320,000,000 Gods
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http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/atheism-religion-0?pag...
What is your counterargument?
I have successfully proved my argument, right?
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