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@ J N Vanderbilt III
Definitely a 13 year old childish, spoiled brat. Thinks he knows everything, yet shows he knows nothing.
Robert A Heinlein: "Men rarely, if ever, manage to dream up a God superior to themselves. Most Gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled brat."
See any similarities?
rmfr
Oh my.
It’s called a code for a reason?
Why do we call the Milky Way by that name? Perhaps the proof for that is in the pudding. IMO, you just can’t have your cake and eat it too, though, because it would cause more problems than you can shake a stick at. But, maybe we should just bite the bullet because you have us by the short hairs.
FFS, JN, words are just words. That DNA is sometimes referred to as a code does not provide proof of what you are suggesting. Let it go.
DNA is not a code, and genetic science doesn't call it a code. The evidence from DNA alone is enough to establish species evolution as a scientific fact. Francis Collins is a born again Christian, and head of the human genome project, and even he has stated this publicly and unequivocally. The entire scientific world agrees that species evolution is a scientific fact. So does the largest christian church and denomination on the planet.
Creationism is by definition a superstition, look it up in the dictionary, as you have been asked repeatedly to demonstrate a shred of objective evidence, or any cogent detailed explanation that doesn't involve a deity using unexplained magic,and you can't, QED.
Evolution still does not involve luck, no matter how many times you repeat this lie.
" mutations, multiple ones that can produce an owls face, impossible "
Then publish your evidence that falsifies this scientific fact, in a worthy peer reviewed scientific journal. Until you do your just another creatard denying a scientific fact he has no concept of.
Do you accept the universe is 13.772 billion years old, and do you accept the earth is 4.543 billion years old? No more pathetic evasion now, even though you are a creationist, and dishonest evasion is therefore second nature to you.
You also still you have not answered my question on your risible superstitious guff about so called near death experiences, are you claiming they occur through supernatural magic, or Is this to be another of your "we can't fully explain it, so goddidit" argument from ignorance fallacies? So again it's axiomatic you have nothing but the bare claim...
I was indeed 13, a little over 40 years ago. If you're not a teenage boy then I'd be very surprised, more so now, given your reaction.
@ JNV3
Kerist, are we back to that again? For fucks sake: Code: a human construct: That is ALL.
How fucking many times do we ride the carousel of your idiocy? Go, live your life as if everything you do not understand is magic...no medicine, prayer for you, your god will look after you.
I love it when fundamentalists refuse medicine and die...the Darwin effect in practise. and no fucking code.
Cyberln, perhaps it’s called a code because it does just what a code does. Sequences and translation occurs w out a doubt.
That potted plant poster doesn’t get it that any content he says is totally ignored, he’s under the spell of E V O L U T I O N ******
Still waiting for you explain how a brain storing memories whilst it is dying from oxygen debt evidences anything supernatural, let alone your fictional bronze age deity?
Do you accept the universe is 13.772 billion years old, and do you accept the earth is 4.543 billion years old? Still waiting for you to answer this as well, or did you think we wouldn't notice you attacked me instead of answering to obfuscate and avoid the questions? Come on show you have something, anything at all beyond the vapid superstitious bilge you keep repeating like a mantra.
DNA is not a code. Codes are a human concept, just like luck. Evolution does not involve luck. Lying won't change this, anymore than denying species evolution will change the fact it is a scientific fact, accepted by the global scientific community as such, because the weight of evidence spans over 160 years of research and all the evidence supports it.
@ J N Vanderbilt III
Hey dude. Merry Christmas. Happy Holidays. Happy New Year. Go have some fun dude.
rmfr
Already told you I don’t know how old the universe is and neither do you
So codes are just a human concept? Is the moon just a concept too? Are sequences just a concept? Is translation too? Your stupidity on this is rich.
The universe is 13.772 billion years old, and the earth is 4.543 billion years old, are you saying this is not an objective fact? How many other scientific facts do you deny?
"Is the moon just a concept too?
You think the moon is an abstract idea? You really are special aren't you. I think we can add the word concept to the list of things you're too dumb to Google.
Still waiting for you explain how a brain storing memories whilst it is dying from oxygen debt evidences anything supernatural, let alone your fictional bronze age deity?
You made the claim, lets see you actually attempt to evidence one of your vapid claims for once.
Or demonstrate any objective evidence for a deity or anything supernatural? How do you believe your deity created a talking snake? was it by magic or can you demonstrate objective evidence and a detailed explanation for how it was done? I think we know the answer.
"Your stupidity on this is rich."
Ok champ, thanks for another irony overload.
@ J N Vanderbilt III
What the hell is wrong with you boy? I mean, damn. I gave you a truly heart-felt holiday wish, yet you are so damned adamant you choose to ignore just to repeat your same inane babble?
Fucking damn, dude. What the hell is wrong with you?
Dude. I seriously think you should seek psychiatric help.
rmfr
I guess it depends on your definition of code. But I say no, no code so to speak, but it has created systems codes are based off of. In fact, most things are based off nature.
Hey Sheldon still think sequences are just a human concept? Sequences ARE codes.
Do you still think the moon is an abstract idea?
The universe is 13.772 billion years old, and the earth is 4.543 billion years old, are you saying this is not an objective fact? How many other scientific facts do you deny?
We're also still waiting for you explain how a brain storing memories whilst it is dying from oxygen debt evidences anything supernatural, let alone your fictional bronze age deity?
You've ignored my questions again as well champ:
Can you demonstrate any objective evidence for a deity or anything supernatural? How do you believe your deity created a talking snake? was it by magic or can you demonstrate objective evidence and a detailed explanation for how it was done? I think we know the answer.
@ JNV3
Learn to read a dictionary you twat. If you still cant see the difference I will explain it you in words for a grade school pupil. A sequence can and does occur naturally, a code is a man made construct.
Now stop going on about it,
sequence
/ˈsiːkw(ə)ns/Submit
noun
1.
a particular order in which related things follow each other.
AND
code
/kəʊd/Submit
noun
1.
a system of words, letters, figures, or symbols used to represent others, especially for the purposes of secrecy.
Facts are of no interest to JNV3, that much is clear.
Told you twice!!
Don’t know age of universe
Consciousness / spirit exists apart from the body so no issues in reports of NDEs
Now still think sequences are just a human concept? Sequences ARE codes.
@ JNV3
I am not pasting the dictionary definitions again. You are just making yourself look incredibly foolish by failing to understand the words you type.
You are bringing ridicule down upon yourself. Your teachers must be so ashamed to have neglected your basic education and for you to have arrived where you are, able to type, unable to comprehend and unable to reason.Shameful.
Now do fuck off back to sandpit and carry on playing. Repeating your childish nonsense without bothering to understand what you write is ridiculous.
Reading isn't your forte, so I'll be patient. I didn't ask if you knew anything. It is an objective scientific fact that the universe is 13.772 billion years old, and the earth is 4.543 billion years old, DO YOU ACCEPT THIS IS AN objective fact? How many other scientific facts do you deny?
Codes are a human concept, and DNA is not a code. Just scroll back and read the half dozen times I've answered this asinine stupidity on the last couple of pages. Sequences are not codes, the alphabet is sequential, are you saying the alphabet is a code?
Honestly I have never seen anyone "spanked" quite so much in any debate, and yet be so completely unaware f it.
J N Vanderbilt III "Sequences ARE codes."
No they're not, the alphabet is a sequence, are you saying the alphabet is a code? You really need to learn to use a dictionary.
sequence
noun
1. a particular order in which related things follow each other.
code
noun
1. a system of words, letters, figures, or symbols used to represent others, especially for the purposes of secrecy.
Old man get a clue and stop avoiding the obvious question
He's pulled your pants down and spanked you in front of everyone more than once in this thread, you are the only one who seems unaware of it as well. as for not answering questions...
We're also still waiting for you explain how a brain storing memories whilst it is dying from oxygen debt evidences anything supernatural, let alone your fictional bronze age deity?
You've ignored my questions again as well champ:
Can you demonstrate any objective evidence for a deity or anything supernatural? How do you believe your deity created a talking snake? was it by magic or can you demonstrate objective evidence and a detailed explanation for how it was done? I think we know the answer.
You are the only one in this thread who has relentlessly evaded questions.
@ JNV3
Try Proverbs 12:15, it describes you perfectly, follow it by the verse in Proverbs 18:2 and there we have JNV3 in all his naked splendour.
Even with your limited comprehension skills you should understand them. Maybe a reading of those or writing them out a few hundred times might just make you think a little about your folly on these threads.
In the words of the great " Now that's a paddlin'"
(edit to add quote)
@ J N Vanderbilt III
What the hell is wrong with you boy? I mean, damn. I gave you a truly heart-felt holiday wish, yet you are so damned adamant you choose to ignore just to repeat your same inane babble?
Fucking damn, dude. What the hell is wrong with you?
And now the definitions for sequences and codes from my 13th Collegiate Dictionary by Merriam-Webster.
sequence noun
1) a hymn in irregular meter between the gradual and Gospel in masses for special occasions (such as Easter)
2) a continuous or connected series: such as
a) an extended series of poems united by a single theme a sonnet sequence
b) three or more playing cards usually of the same suit in consecutive order of rank
c) a succession of repetitions of a melodic phrase or harmonic pattern each in a new position
d) a set of elements ordered so that they can be labeled with the positive integers
e) the exact order of bases in a nucleic acid or of amino acids in a protein
f)
1) a succession of related shots or scenes developing a single subject or phase of a film story
2) episode
3)
a) order of succession
b) an arrangement of the tenses of successive verbs in a sentence designed to express a coherent relationship especially between main and subordinate parts
4)
a) consequence, result
b) a subsequent development
5) continuity of progression the narrative sequence
sequence verb
1) to arrange in a sequence
2) to determine the sequence of chemical constituents (such as amino-acid residues or nucleic-acid bases) in a molecule
When I was in school, even starting in 3rd grade, we were thought a skill known as Reading Comprehension. Do they no longer teach that skill any longer?
Dude. I seriously think you should seek psychiatric help.
rmfr
J N Vanderbilt III: "Consciousness / spirit exists apart from the body so no issues in reports of NDEs
Please present OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE else you are speaking in nigmekarg (V: stuporous incoherence).
And back to my olive branch. Dude, I offered you a genuine peace offering in this post. And you have completely refused to notice it. Why? Just because I spanked you rather hard in one post? That is a sign of sociopathic behavior. You need to get help.
Think Critically about it.
rmfr
How could you know that is true. For all I know it might be true! But again, how do you know that?
You guys are heroes for obfuscating about sequences.
“The genetic code is the set of rules by which information encoded in genetic material (DNA or RNA sequences) is translated into proteins (amino acid sequences) by living cells.”
Oh and the alphabet doesn’t get translated nor doesn’t represent information that gets translated
Oh and the order of nucleotides is a human concept? Don’t make me laugh
The alphabet is a sequence, it is not a code, hence your claim a sequence is the same as a code is absurd.
...but then absurdity seems to be your bag. As does making up bare faced lies of course, despite no one biting in this entire ridiculous thread of yours, bless. Your accusation of obfuscation is funny though, given you completely ignore every question your asked.
"and the alphabet doesn’t get translated "
You know humans have created more than one alphabet right?
"the order of nucleotides is a human concept? Don’t make me laugh"
So you can demonstrate objective evidence another sentient being understands it then? Well that's different, please enthral us all...oh and it is you who is making us laugh, though again you alone seem unaware of it.
We're also **still waiting for you explain how a brain storing memories whilst it is dying from oxygen debt evidences anything supernatural, let alone your fictional bronze age deity?
You have also ignored these questions again, talking of obfuscation.
Can you demonstrate any objective evidence for a deity or anything supernatural? How do you believe your deity created a talking snake? was it by magic or can you demonstrate objective evidence and a detailed explanation for how it was done? I think we know the answer.
You are the only one in this thread who has relentlessly evaded questions.
J N Vanderbilt III: "Oh and the alphabet doesn’t get translated nor doesn’t represent information that gets translated"
Then how are words constructed?
rmfr
Anyone find it amusing when people with an execrable grasp of language try and play dishonest word games?
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