Has nature ever created a code?
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Grinseed: "By Christ, you guys have some patience. Thirty four page of this crap just to stroke Van's vanity."
For me, it ain't got nothing to with patience. I am having fun fucking with this little child. I gave him a most extremely severe spanking disproving and demolishing his assertions. Ever since then, he has told me to "shut the fuck up" and that he was going to ignore me. Just a few posts above, I even told him he could ignore me all he wants but ain't going to stop fucking with him, making him look like the mentally deficient idiot that he is.
As said, it is now fun and funny watching him endlessly repeat his inane and asinine assertions. And sometimes he squirms when we squeeze him and that is fun to watch.
Now you’re talking aliens creating dna/life? This is simply moving the problem of the creation of life to a different locale, not too cerebral there.
Show where the passage that I “plagerized” is wrong? Those words of logic seemed to have hit a raw nerve in you godless believers of mutational luck.
Wed, 12/26/2018 - 11:51
J N Vanderbilt III "Sequences ARE codes."
So is 1,2,3 a code?
So how did your magic sky fairy create a talking snake, and magic apples? You never did say, in fact you haven't offered one single word of explanation for your creationist fantasy in this whole thread?
What other scientific facts do you deny?
Do you still deny that the earth is 4.543 billion years old, and the universe is 13.8 billion years old?
How old do you claim they are then? Most creatards try to claim the everything is just a few thousand years old. Then when you ask how we can see light from stars that are billions of light years away they become very reticent.
Seeing as you are unable to prove that codes are not created by aliens, we can conclude that codes must have been created by aliens according to your logic.
Please learn to spell plagiarised.
I've only just noticed that J N Vanderbilt III seems to be asking us to prove that nature created code out of nothing, even though no one here made that claim.
The only person claiming that life was created from nothing is him, which is why he considers it a problem for us to answer, even though there is no evidence there is any such problem.
Weirdly, he attacks me for apparently stupidly suggesting that aliens created life because it only moves the problem elsewhere, and yet at the same time, he suggests that God created life out of nothing.
J N Vanderbilt III: "Now you’re talking aliens creating dna/life?"
Saporro: "Weirdly, he attacks me for apparently stupidly suggesting that aliens created life because it only moves the problem elsewhere, and yet at the same time, he suggests that God created life out of nothing."
Well, have a look at this. Thus, yeah. The Engineers did it. ;-P
J N VanderbiltIII: "Show where the passage that I “plagerized” is wrong? Those words of logic seemed to have hit a raw nerve in you godless believers of mutational luck."
You mean the article you plagiarised in this post?
Located on this web page?
An article written by a computer programmer wacko?
This article is nothing more than an inane and asinine attempt to make the DNA molecule look like a computer program. Sorry my little child. Molecules are NOT computer programs.
Did you even bother to look deeper into the background of that web site? As said, it is nothing more than an inane and asinine computer programmer attempting to make DNA look like a computer program.
It does not work that way. It has been repeated enough times that even you, by now, should get the picture. DNA is NOT a code. It is a molecule that carries a set of instructions. One could say the same of a computer program, but there is a big difference. Humans create code to write computer programs. DNA does not require humans to create it. Nor does it need a deity.
Seriously little child, you need to wait until you are old enough to attend college and earn at least a Bachelor's degree in Evolutionary Biology or Evolutionary Genetics before you can state anything of any worth. I may not be an expert in these fields, but I know enough about them from taking college courses in Genetics to know infinitely more knowledge about Genetics and the DNA molecule when compared to you.
Stay in school. Graduate high school. Go to college. And quit skipping classes to smoke that weed.
Page 35 and still not one shred of objective evidence for any deity, anything supernatural, or any code created by intelligence other than humans.
The bottom line is creatards can deny as many scientific facts as they want. Creationism remains an unevidenced superstition.
Would you know evidence if confronted by it?
I believe the existence of the Deity is more logically sound given the sources I long ago suggested then for you believing that any mutation is possible let alone multiple coordinated mutations.
Got a mutation for me to look like a willow tree if Me and my descendants stand next to it long enough? HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Do you believe that you are descended from a lump of clay inflated with some air, and that you are severely inbred?
YOU claimed you had your own logic right at the start. Now you may not realise how hilariously moronic that claim is, but anyone who can Google the definition of logic will, nuff said.
As for objective evidence, you're the one cherry picking scientific facts and closed mindedly rejecting one because it contradicts your religion's risible creation myth.
You don't understand science, you don't even understand what the word logic means, and you can't demonstrate a shred of objective evidence for any deity, anything supernatural, or to support your creatard fantasy about magic apples, talking snakes, and humans zapped into existence instantly using magic clay.
Why are you still here, seriously?
@J N Vanderbilt III
"In nature nothing is created, nothing is lost, everything is transformed." - Antoine Lavoisier
In this thread, you've been endlessly attacking a premise that I'm not aware anyone here has (or at least, you've been hiding behind words that you have not sort to define, like "nature", "created", "code", and "intelligent").
The conversation has evolved to cover diff topics but I like your insults Sapporo, does that make you feel better?
I think it gives you more intellectual power don’t you agree?
Now about the luck for me and my brood to start to look like a willow tree, I just need to devote more time standing next to it and Pray for some lucky mutations, multiple coordinated ones
I wasn't insulting you.
I was asking if you believe that you are descended from a lump of clay inflated with some air, and that you are severely inbred.
So do you believe that a god created man from dirt and a woman from a rib? So your god believes in incest, Adam fucked his clone and their children fucked each other.
Evolution still doesn't involve luck, your relentless duplicity in repeating this straw man won't change this fact.
Now why do you think sequences ARE codes, when they clearly are not?
How many thousands of years old do you believe the universe is?
Do you believe the Noah flood myth has any validity to it?
Do you actually believe a man lived in the belly of a massive fish for months, as your hilarious bible claims?
Do you believe you came from goo in a pond then became a fish and then human?
jnv3: "Do you believe you came from goo in a pond then became a fish and then human?"
With the Theory of Evolution, what you just said is way more believable than your belief in deity that formed a lump of clay, gave it a blow job, and it became a man.
"Do you believe you came from goo in a pond then became a fish and then"
No, why on earth would I?...anymore than I believe humans were zapped into existence using magic and clay, talking snakes and magic apples.
Yeah I think not with all your unbelievably lucky multiple coordinated mutations you’ll believe anything , so how many generations would I have to wait till my descendants look like willow trees? Ha ha Ha ha ha
Wrong DNA dumb ass. All gloves are off. You to me are nothing more than young child being an annoying little shit. I am giving you reasons to ignore me now you juvenile delinquent.
I don't know, how many generations would I have to wait for your descendants to look like lumps of clay?
Saporro, that was an insult to lumps of clay.
jnv3: "Would you know evidence if confronted by it?"
More so than your capability of supplying evidence.
Any takers chance a guess? Remember if you can dream it, evolution can make the preposterous come true! You too can look like an owl, ha
Here is my guess. Your Sky Faerie formed together a lump of clay, gave it a blow job, and man! Your Sky Faerie then took a rib, created a female clone of the man. Your Sky Faerie then created a talking snake to fuck with the woman because your Sky Faerie did not want them in its garden anyway. Thus, your Sky Faerie had to tell the man and woman a lie while creating a talking snake to tell them the truth. Thus, they gained the Sky Faerie's knowledge of good and evil making them equal to the Sky Faerie. But the Sky Faerie knew this would happen anyway and once they ate from the Life Tree, they may end up gang banging the Sky Faerie and kicking its ass out of the garden.
Then when out of the garden, the man committed the ultimate act of incest by fucking himself. Then their children fucked themselves creating a in-bred race of retarded primates.
Yep, that makes a hell of a lot more sense to me.
Evolution is an objectively evidenced fact. Your woefully ignorant misrepresentations of it are as you say "preposterous".
Not quite as preposterous as unevidenced creation myths claiming humans were zapped instantly into existence using magic clay, talking snakes and magic apples, all occurring according to crwatards roughly when the ancient Sumerians were inventing glue, or humans started to tame feral dogs.
There a post somewhere?
Anyone take a guess?
So to summarise:
Your OP was erroneous.
You failed to use the correct definitions of "code"
You tries to equate Code with "sequence"
You tried to equate alphabet with a designed sequence.
This is a fail.
Then you plagiarized misunderstood articles (or fallacious apologetics) about:
Thats a minus F. A huge failure to understand the Scientific Theory behind evolution, and resolute wish to repeat fallacious nonsense.
You also plagiarized a terribly inaccurate evangelist blog post where he hilariously gets it entirely wrong about ...codes, sequences and math.
Then you shifted the goalposts by inserting "genetic code" (which is a shorthand for a naturally occurring molecular instruction) in a vain and dishonest attempt to vindicate yourself.
The plagiarism is enough to get you sent down/rusticated/expelled from any decent school. Obviously no one saw fit to educate you regarding ethics.
The failure to understand even what this evangelist dipstick above was writing shows the depth of your ignorance, exacerbated by your recent bout of ad hominems.
I've been patient now fuck off and learn something before returning. If you do return, use the correct words, the correct grammar and if you PLAGIARISE learn to fucking spell the word when you are caught.
Oh, STOP LYING.