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@tin, that can't be right because if nobody was standing in front of me then they would be somebody and somebody is in another thread...I'm so confused.
@Term-dog Re: "....if nobody was standing in front of me then they would be somebody...."
No-no-no... You got it all wrong. You are making this way more complicated than it is. Look, let me make it simple for you....
If you open your eyes and Nobody is there, then obviously you do not see Anybody. But if you open your eyes and Someone is there, then how could it possibly be Nobody there? (Unless, of course, Someone has Nobody with him.) Now, obviously, it is possible you open your eyes and Everybody is there, but they could have Nobody with them too, in which case you could see that Nobody was with Everybody. Then again, if you open your eyes and see Someone, then he may have Somebody with him, unless Nobody is around to hang out with him.
See? Easy, right?
@tin just give me a minute to process ...................................................................................................................................................................... Uh, ah got it, no wait ......................................fuck it, gone again.
Can you say that again but add more steps.
Tin-Man,
I think I'll stick with quantum mechanics--it's a lot less confusing!
Bad Breath, I'm afraid.
I want nobody to reply to this post.
@Term-dog Re: "I want nobody to reply to this post."
That's cool, I suppose. Personally, I wouldn't want Anybody to reply. However, what if Someone did reply?
I don't want anybody or somebody to reply I want nobody to reply, so please nobody reply to me, everybody, anybody and somebody fuck off.
@Term-dog
LMAO.... Shit, that was funny.... *still laughing*....
Nobody grants your wish
@ sapporo : @Nobody
"If you seriously want to "prove" that God exists, you need to prove that the universe was created."
And not only that - you have to prove NOTHING can exist. Nowhere in the universe do we have an example of nothing from which something can come. We do have examples of things appearing spontaneously within our universe. What is outside this universe is unknown.
You are asking us to believe there is nothing out there, but in this nothing there is something called god who is beyond time and space but can have thoughts and participate in actions to create a universe that all requires time and space. Your God is self contradictory and therefore simply cancels itself out. What you really need to do is sit down for a bit and create a better God.
God has never contradicted Himself. There are only the mistakes of men focused on themselves. Only man can contemplate a square circle. God will never feel the need to do so. We live in the age of self and all of the ills associated with relentless focus on the imperfect.
If nobody sucked my nuts does that make me gay?
No judgement.
ETA asking for a friend.
If nobody knocks down a tree in a forest and nobody is there to hear it fall, is nobody there or is there nobody?
Depends, was anybody there when the tree fell?
Nobody can prove God exists!
( since the is one of those who's on first kind of conversations...)
Nobody is still trying to understand your counter argument to the proof that God exists..
I guess the proof that God exists is indeed a problem. Nobody knows why.
Nobody's God is the God of nobody.
the only person that claimed proof of a god is that character that is plagued with illeism and calls itself nobody, the rest of the people on here are still waiting on the evidence that said character has. A question is not an answer. You dont prove a point by using another question to supposedly answer a question. You simply have TWO questions. It also assumes since there is a universe that there is something outside of a universe and its own question to the question makes the whole argument an exercise in futility ."Name something that can create itself" well then it (refers to itself as "Nobody) if the question can be answered with a question then how ABOUT this god of yours that you are purportedly proving? Simply a play on words that the whole argument is infinite, as well as absurd. You still dont prove there is a god, try the Easter rabbit, you may have better luck and might get some candy. You wont get anything here until you give us proof. Just exercising your banal rhetoric
Sooooo are we done, God has been proven to exist?
Happened here on this forum, "man's" deepest question has now been answered?
Is this the end of agnosticism?
Sorry but I was expecting more fanfare.
@Term-dog Re: "Sooooo are we done, God has been proven to exist?"
Sorry, Term-dog, but we may be far from done. It is obvious Nobody has made much effort in trying to prove the existence of a god. Moreover, though, Nobody had nothing much of value to provide as proof during this entire thread. Therefore, it looks like we are now going to have to wait for Someone to prove the existence of a god on another thread. Everybody just needs to be patient, though, because it is a very complicated matter. Therefore, we shouldn't expect just Anybody to be able to do it.
I can do it.
I have personal knowledge of God because he manifested himself to me. Prove me wrong. I don't care if you believe me or not. I have proved God to myself. End of discussion. I know in my heart God is real. I don't have to prove it to you.
(This is the only tenable position any Christian can take. Do not discuss, do not justify, do not elaborate. Do not attempt to convince others. Do not clarify. Simply assert that you know because you have personal experience and that it feel right to you. The discussion is over.)
Yes I have only proved God to myself. That's all that matters. God is proved and I will not discuss it with the heathen any longer.
[copyrighted material removed, it was a copy/paste of chapter 1 of this book if anyone wants to read it - Nyarlathotep]
@pgardner2358
Since you have used an unrecognizable character in your long diatribe, it makes no sense. Try rewriting without that special symbol.
Here are some tips.
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/site-support/useful-forum-tips
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/filter/tips
Examples of the senselessness...
...small volumes over very short ________ periods of time...
...constituency of the primordial________biosphere...
See how that is confusing and makes no sense. What is in the ________?
rmfr
WOW! Someone has been waiting a long time to emote all over the computer screen!
I love it when theists attempt to use science to perpetuate their myth. My favorite FALSE DICHOTOMY "There are two, and only two, explanations for the means whereby life now exists on this planet."
Then he goes on to assert "First, there is the explanation that life on earth was divinely created. " and "The other means I am referring to is, of course, the theory of evolution. "
After all that citation and mumbo-jumbo, This guy does not know EVOLUTION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CREATION OF LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE. NOTHING!
@Evolution is the climbing of a ladder from simple to complex by steps, each of which is stable in itself. MORE EVIDENCE HE UNDERSTANDS NOTHING ABOUT EVOLUTION. Evolution has no direction. It is no simple to complex. Things evolve to adapt to the environment in which they find themselves. Explain the Alba worm. Probably one of the most versatile and well evolved creatures on the planet. All animals currently alive on the planet have had the same time to evolve as us. There is no evidence for simple to complex. If there was cockroaches would be attending universities.
BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS AN ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN/COMPLEXITY.
Wow what a long drawn out bunch of drivel. Complex, complex, complex, complex, complex and more complex. Some complex, complex, complex and a solution that is more complex than the complex, therefore God.
You can't explain this, you can't explain that, this is not explainable and that is not explainable we just don't know the universe is so complex, therefore God.
WE AGREE - THE UNIVERSE IS COMPLEX WE AGREE - you can not explain everything. So how do you get to a God instead of universe creating bunnies? How do you get to an omnipotent all powerful being instead of a magic turtle that is just powerful enough to create a universe and then die? Frankly, I still think it is turtles all the way down and you can not prove me wrong. They exist outside time and space but interact with us when we pray.
Another BS argument that attempts to use Science and what we don't know as ground for a belief in a magical flying sky daddy.
Here is the premise
"Nobody can prove God exists."
Perfect statement of fact if I ever heard one. Totally backs my claim of "No evidence = no existence."
Since Nobody can provide any evidence, Nobody cannot prove any god exists.
;-P
rmfr
I can use the same logic as proof that my tomatoes are created by garden fairies.
Ya know, after reviewing most all the posts in this thread, it dawned on me how fortunate most of us are. For the most part, it seems we all pretty much have friends and/or family who love and care about us and give advice and support for us when needed. And then I think about those poor folks out there who may have Nobody for support and advice.... And I feel bad for those people. Of course, I then have to consider the fact there are those who are actually better off without Someone. It's all a matter of perspective, I suppose.
Yes, it is a problem. Making the reasonable assumption that you don't have some fantastic proof missed by the world's cleverest theologians, I'd say that you have a problem with your god argument. Shall we put it to the test?
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