Morality: Theistic vs Secular

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Morality: Theistic vs Secular

Hello AR,

I'm interested to hear everyone's, atheist and theist, opinions on the value of secular morality compared to Theistic morality. From the atheistic side, I mostly encounter examples about slavery, rape, and genocide stories in the Bible, but I am hoping to hear arguments from a wider perspective.

Also, if you have any links to debates on the topic, I would be very interested in those as well. Sam Harris is a particular favorite of mine, but I also enjoy a good Matt Dillahunty debate. Matt D vs. Matt Slick was enjoyable. I found Matt Slick to be intelligent and coherent in his arguments, though I disagreed with his position. However, Matt D. vs. Sye was (in my opinion, of course), embarrassing for Sye. If you want to hear a debate where one side argues 100% ad hominem by taking his opponent's quotes out of context and repeating "He's a brain in a vat" over and over, then this debate is for you!

Here are some questions to get started, if you are interested in responding:

How do you define morality?

Where does your morality come from? God? A holy book? Cheese? Empathy?

Which is superior, secular or theistic morality, and why?

When confronted with an opponent, how would you argue for your position on this matter?

Thank you all for any responses!

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@OP by Skeptical Kevin
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All morality is secular.
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@ Cog
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You might be right about that
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How do you define morality?
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This is why I argue that
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