Political odds - POTUS

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Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.249

Hillary Clinton: 0.249

Donald Trump: 3.078

Trump passes 3 to 1 for the first time since I started keeping track!

ThePragmatic's picture
Still, way too good odds for

Still, way too good odds for a wall-building, anti-waxxing, erratic, egomaniac sociopath. Wait, what? Am I Kenny?

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.249

Hillary Clinton: 0.249

Donald Trump: 3.069

Not much movement in last 24 hours.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.249

Hillary Clinton: 0.249

Donald Trump: 3.061

Not much change today either.

Ryan is running at about 85

mykcob4's picture
Trump is losing badly and is

Trump is losing badly and is proving that he has no business or organization skills. Yesterday he hired Kellyanne Conway a conservative pollster (push-pollster), Roger Ailes a yellow journalist sleazy sexual predator,and Steven Bannon CEO of Breitbart (the conspiracy theory rag).
This is a desperation move that can only solidify his shrinking base, not expand it. I'm sure in the next few days, maybe hours, there will be a whole host of new wacky unbelievable conspiracy theories coming out of the Trump camp.

Deforres's picture
And maybe then people will

And maybe then people will finally get their heads straight.

ZeffD's picture
I thought you'd all like this

I thought you'd all like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g
Those who see no difference between supporters of Trump and supporters of Ms Clinton might appreciate it too.
(Sorry Nyarlathotep. Here I too fail to respect the narrow purpose of this thread. You should say if we're being a nuisance)

Deforres's picture
"Here I too fail to respect

"Here I too fail to respect the narrow purpose of this thread."

You know, when looked at from the right angle, that might seem glaringly close to an insult of sorts.......though I agree that Nyar should tell us if we're going too far off topic......

Nyarlathotep's picture
I have no say over what gets

I have no say over what gets posted here, and everything looks on topic anyway :)

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.248

Hillary Clinton: 0.248

Donald Trump: 3.058

mykcob4's picture
It is quite possible that

It is quite possible that Clinton will win 340 electoral votes. More importantly, the down ballots are going decidedly Democratic. Even John McCain will likely lose.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.249

Hillary Clinton: 0.249

Donald Trump: 2.993

Trump seems to have stabilized; no longer in free fall.

ThePragmatic's picture
He'll make a new statement

He'll make a new statement about something soon...

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.310

Hillary Clinton: 0.310

Donald Trump: 2.496

While still a long shot, Trump has made up some ground.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.361

Hillary Clinton: 0.361

Donald Trump: 2.133

¡Ay, caramba! Trump is making up ground fast.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.400

Hillary Clinton: 0.400

Donald Trump: 1.941

Trump still on the rise.

ThePragmatic's picture
NOOOO!

NOOOO!

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Sir Random's picture
"NOOOO!"

"NOOOO!"

do not want

#StarWarTheThirdGathersBackstrokeoftheWest.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.524

Hillary Clinton: 0.524

Donald Trump: 1.640

Trump's odds are now more or less equivalent to Romney's at this point in 2012.

ThePragmatic's picture
How could it be that not

How could it be that not everyone loves this man?

Trump is happy that his building is again the tallest in NYC, as the the twin towers collapsed.
https://twitter.com/sparksjls/status/775018298891202561

jdrose's picture
TRUMP will win. Hillary going

TRUMP will win. Hillary going down. Karma before your eyes.

ThePragmatic's picture
@ BS

@ BS

It's interesting to see your antagonism...

A question about your Trump support: Do you support him because you have a conservative political view or do you support him because of religious motives?

That one guy's picture
Honestly I'm just straight

Honestly I'm just straight terrified for our country. One hand trump who has the temperament of a toddler and will say anything to get elected on the other hand Hillary who breaks the law and gets her staff killed and thrown under the bus. Do any research on Benghazi literally any. Some shady shit went on and at the very least (though honestly it seems intentional) was excessively gross incompetence. The emails thing is looking to get Hillary's ex chief of staff indited but not her cause the president says its ok for her to break the law. What is this country coming to. The president is supposed to be noble. A man among men. Or a woman among women. It looks like this is a race between the most crooked bastards Washington had to offer. No matter who you you guys vote for make sure to vote against the TPP cause if that shit goes through we are fucked.

ThePragmatic's picture
Yup.

Yup.

I'm happy to not live in the U.S, but I'm still terrified for the implications of the US election on the rest of the world. Hillary may be a crooked bastard, but so is Trump. And as you say, he has the temperament of a toddler. And when the president of a superpower has a tantrum, well... That can't be good.

I think Hillary will make much less damage and the fact that a women would then be president of the US could have positive effects for the rest of the world.

That one guy's picture
When Bernie got pushed out I

When Bernie got pushed out I was both enraged and depressed at the same time. One of our more honest politicians pushed out in order for a second psycho path to run. He would've killed trump but as this room shows the polls keep fluctuating because hillary is just as bad. Sanders would be running away at the polls right now but scandals keep coming out about Clinton cause she is just as crooked as trump.

ZeffD's picture
"Hillary who breaks the law"

"Hillary who breaks the law" Evidence?
"...gets her staff killed and thrown under the bus. Do any research on Benghazi literally any. Some shady shit went on and at the very least (though honestly it seems intentional) was excessively gross incompetence." I have done "some research" (Internet) and find nothing compelling. Got any links, please? Thanks.

Quote: Clinton has been investigated thoroughly by the House Committee, most recently at a Benghazi hearing in October (by then, she was a presidential nominee). While it could have stood to tarnish her presidential campaign, she staved off overly inflated accusations that seemed to fit the Republican narrative of the story — that she was the most responsible, and was negligent to respond properly....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-role-benghazi-know-195600379....

algebe's picture
@Jackdanel

@Jackdanel
"Honestly I'm just straight terrified for our country."

I'm not American, but I live on the same planet, and I'm terrified to see a superpower that that prints "In god we trust" on its money and makes everybody recite "one nation under god".

In god you're trussed, and you've got god's great big butt sitting on you.

mykcob4's picture
@Jackdanel

@Jackdanel
Hillary hasn't broken any laws. She hasn't even committed a misdemeanor. Who did she "get killed on her staff"? If you are referring to Foster, that is a rightwing conspiracy theory. If you are referring to Benghazi, be aware that there have been no less than 12 congressional investigations, a Justice Dept. investigation, a State department investigation, a DOD investigation, and none, I mean NONE have found ANY wrong doing by Secy. Clinton.
The President has NEVER said it is okay for Hillary to break the law, that is an outright lie on your part. Do you even know what is IN the TTP.
1st of all the TTP agreement will FINALLY eliminate all tariffs on US goods. The agreement with all 12 nations will end these tariffs. Those 11 nations have put unusually high tariffs on American goods while the US imposes almost no tariffs on their goods. Workers rights, human rights, and environmental laws will be enforced in those nations.
Here is an example. The USA sells steel to Vietnam. Vietnam imposes a 50% tariff on that steel. Vietnam processes that steel and sells it back to the US with NO tariff. Now in Vietnam, they have no human rights, no environmental laws, no workers rights. If TTP was passed and enforced, Vietnam would eliminate the tariff on US steel, comply with international environmental laws, comply with workers protection laws and comply with human rights laws. That is just one example.
Granted NAFTA is a big failure, but only because American business moved jobs to nations that have no human rights environmental laws, and have no human rights. Hillary has a safeguard aginst that practice.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about and have bought into a whole host of conspiracy theories.
You must have gone to see the FICTIONAL movie '13 hours'. It is pure propaganda made by a rightwing nut director Michael Bay. In the movie, the rescuers are ordered to "stand down". That NEVER ever happened as most of the bullshit in that movie.

That one guy's picture
http://www.factcheck.org/2015

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/partisan-spin-on-benghazi/ The amassador begged for months prior for more troupes yet none were provided. There were forces available during the attack and she did not respond or handle it correctly. http://therightscoop.com/new-email-shows-pentagon-asked-hillary-to-let-t... It very much seems this bullshit was intentional but I will spare you the many analysis and opinion write ups on this cause no doubt you will say its all conservative propaganda. All of you guys are very liberal and don't seem to accept or even try to examine a neutral position. Keep in mind I am very neutral on this whole thing I've read both sides of the arguments but the straight facts are shady as shit.

Also Obama and Hillary had a Private meeting with the Attorney General concerning her case. People don't usually get to do that sort of thing. Because Obama was endorsing her she got off is basically what happened. I don't even need links for that because first its the thing that comes up on google. Also in months prior Obama was forced to recant his statements about Hillary's case to the public because he made it seem like she was innocent while the investigation was on going. Massive pressure was put on the justice department to drop the case.

How dare you make some invented ad hominem statement about me watching some movie when you obviously only listen and read the most biased liberal crap you can find, and only praise Hillary after all the crap she has done. She is dishonest and corrupt. She screwed Bernie over recently by doing some very unethical politicianing. Oh and about the TPP I'm against it cause it give companies incentive to move out of country to obtain cheaper labor. Hillary is even criticizing it now.

mykcob4's picture
@Jackdanel

@Jackdanel
1) Your first site only confirms what I said. The tag you added afterwards leaves out a great deal. You said "The ambassador begged for months prior for more troupes yet none were provided. There were forces available during the attack and she did not respond or handle it correctly." The Ambassador asked for more troops, yes, but they were asked for nearly 8 months earlier, not within days of the attack. Also, the republican controlled Congress cut the consulate security budget. THAT is why troops were not readily available.
2) You say that Obama and Hillary had private meetings with the Atty. Gen "about her case". She didn't HAVE a fucking case and how do you know what was said in those meetings? Also, Hillary didn't meet privately with the Atty. Gen.
3) Hillary didn't screw Bernie over. That is a flat out lie. Debbie Wasserman Schultz expressed a wish to not support Bernie by the DNC in a hacked private email, but Hillary had nothing to do with that.
You say "all the crap she has done. She is dishonest and corrupt." but there is NO evidence whatsoever that Hillary is corrupt. You want to provide one iota of evidence? The RNC would love it because in 30 years they haven't been able to find a damned thing!
I didn't say that you got your information from the movie '13 Hours', I asked if that was where you got your information. So it wasn't an ad hominem statement.

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