Political odds - POTUS

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You are a complete an utter

You are a complete an utter idiot.
Obama hasn't and isn't appeasing Muslims. He has nothing but respect for Americans. Hillary didn't "assassinate" Ambassador Gary Stevens.
It shows that YOU are a racist homophobic moron that you denigrate a great American PATRIOT who died in the line of duty to this great nation with YOUR statement " Gay Libyan ambassador." What the fuck does being "gay" have to do with it.
Do you have ANY proof whatsoever that Hillary Clinton had anything to do with Gary Stevens being killed? 9congressional hearings, a department of defense investigation, a state department investigation, an FBI investigation, several intelligence agencies investigations, could find anything that would cause ANY SANE person to believe that Secy. Clinton bore any responsibility for the murders at Benghazi.

jdrose's picture
First of all, I am gay.

First of all, I am gay. Second , there's a great bridge going on sale in NYC tomorrow. Get there early. I heard its a great investment,

ThePragmatic's picture
So you're saying that you are

So you're saying that you are gay, a conservative and fanatical Trump supporter?

mykcob4's picture
@Seeker

@Seeker
Typical. I ask for proof and you go on a nonsensical rant.

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I hear bidding is HOT on that

I hear bidding is HOT on that bridge! Get there early!!

Nyarlathotep's picture
A lot of the people who use

A lot of the people who use this forum are not native speakers; so your idiom about buying a bridge is probably not very helpful.

jdrose's picture
They're having a sale on

They're having a sale on golden clouds! Stock up.

ZeffD's picture
Seeker demonstrated s/he is

Seeker demonstrated s/he is an ignorant and a troll.

mykcob4's picture
Seeker is a Trump religious

Seeker is a Trump religious troll.

jdrose's picture
@mykcob4

@mykcob4
Let me get this straight. For you, anti-Trump atheism is the PC acceptable default position for a logical/rational/modern person to demonstrate proper "respect" lest who be offended?

mykcob4's picture
@Seeker

@Seeker
The question makes no sense. My non-religious stance has only a limited bearing on my political views and only if religion is the issue. My stance against Trump is based on logic and deep concern for this nation. You talk about "being offended" as if we that are against Trump have been doing the offending. YOU have been calling Secy. Clinton "Hitlery". YOU have been hurling insults at members on this board, not any of the rest of us.
Here is the rub. You and the conservatives in general, have created mythical conspiracies against Hillary Clinton. You blame her for everything mentionable. You haven't ever come up with any facts to support such allegations. You deny the insults and lies made by Trump, even though those are facts that are recorded and easily found.
As for "PC", PC is just respect and nothing more. African-Americans, want to be call Blacks or African-Americans, not niggers. Women don't want to be objectified or marginalized. Simple social common courtesy and respect.
Now I can easily find things about Trump that back up what I say about him. He is a racist, a homophobe, a fraud, a bad businessman, a draft dodger, a supporter of Putin, an admirer of the worst despots in modern history, a pathological liar, a woman hater, and much much more.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d4...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-praises-ki...
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/trump-campaign-really-loves-...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-ev...
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/03/donald_...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/03/art-of-the-steal-this-i...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/opinion/campaign-stops/the-lies-trump-...
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2015/jul/21/was-trump-draft...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-economic-plan-goes-from-w...

The only reason Trump is the GOP nominee is because the uneducated people of this nation are engaged in populism. The same sick situation that gave rise to NAZI Germany. Thuggery, bullying, demonizing, bumper-sticker menatlity, scapegoating, are all the tactics of Trump, Palin, Cruz, and all the rightwingers that are ginning up the uneducated base.

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BLM - That is thuggery.

BLM - That is thuggery. Anarchy is thuggery. Cynically destroying the Black family with welfare to re-plantationize African-Americans into ghettos for their votes is Democrat thuggery for the last 50 years. Ask Black Sheriff Joe Clark from Milwaukee. He keeps being reelected. Was there not a civil rights movement in this country 50 years ago? MLK is rolling in his grave. His niece, Alveda King speaks to these issues on his behalf, and she and I are in complete agreement as well as Sheriff Clark..

Yes. Trump is such an anti-Semite his daughter converted to Orthodox Judaism, with his blessing, and his son-in-law Jared Kushner is one of Donald's most trusted advisors and Bibi Netanyahu is his close friend of many years.. Trump is SO anti-Semitic, he was asked to lead the Israel Day Parade in NYC some years ago, and this was considered dangerous. (Just like Hitler, huh?)

Putin just filled a power vacuum caused by Obama's fecklessness. Believe me, Israel wants Trump and not Hillary to be elected. This explains the current politic in Syria with Assad-Putin-Iran Axis. http://carolineglick.com/the-new-middle-east/

Nationalism is not an enemy, per se. It can be healthy, like our traditional "American Exceptionalism" based upon our constitution , laws, and free enterprise. The Brits just proved with Brexit that they don't want to subjugate their sovereignty to unelected Brussels bureaucrats

National Socialism like Hitler and Hitlery turns out quite ugly if Adolph is a guide. The lesson of WWII is not that nationalism is evil so Europe must cede sovereignty to a central power, the unaccountable EU, the lesson is that National Socialism ends in disaster. Demonize the Jews or in Hitlery's case, demonize the wealthy.(while shilling for them and being part of them, albeit on the graft side, not the production side) and prostrate yourself against thugs and apologize for white privelege and intrinsic systemic bias. Jeez.

Most important, why would you want to repeat National Socialism with Hitlery? Her enemy is "the people" and her "basket of deplorables"

ThePragmatic's picture
When your advocating for

When your advocating for Trump, drawing parallels with Hillary and Hitler is flabbergasting.

jdrose's picture
Hillary's been accusing

Hillary's been accusing American "deplorables" of a "vast right wing conspiracy" since before Bill was elected president. She called Monica Lewinsky a "narcissistic loony toon" until Bill's semen was found on Monica's dress. That retained dress, thanks to Linda Tripp, maybe saved Monica's life.

Those who accuse others of conspiracy are usually the guilty ones. The Big Lie theory. Remember Goebbels (well not personally) ? Deflect and pivot, the hallmark of the Democrat playbook.

You dismiss fact and accuse me of ignoring fact. Only one of us can be correct.

mykcob4's picture
@Seeker

@Seeker
Oh my word!!!!! "That retained dress, thanks to Linda Tripp, maybe saved Monica's life." Talk about a CONSPIRACY! You actually think that Hillary Clinton intended to MURDER Monica Lewinski? That is so stupid and unhinged it isn't even funny.
You've lost it, you've really lost it!

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Seeker - Hillary's been

Seeker - Hillary's been accusing American "deplorables" of a "vast right wing conspiracy" since before Bill was elected president.

VS

Wikipedia - "Vast right-wing conspiracy" is a conspiracy theory referenced in 1998 by the then First Lady of the United States Hillary Clinton

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For the consideration of the

For the consideration of the contributors to this thread.....

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By this reckoning , BS (aka seeker) forfeited this debate and ended any requirement to consider his posts on 3rd October 2016 10:36 post

mykcob4's picture
So what are the odds now

So what are the odds now since Trump really stepped in it?
All you Trump apologist have to eat your words. Trump has no character, no ethics, no morals, and he represents the GOP. For more than a year the conservatives have been excusing the racism, the sexism, the demonization of segments of the population, the glorifying of tyrants and despots. The conservatives finally got the populace angry candidate that they have always wanted to reflect what they really are. TRUMP IS the GOP, the conservative poster child, the hypocritical liar.
The Alt-rights, the Neo-Cons, the tea partiers, the religious right, the NRA supporters, the anti-abortionist, the KKKs, the white supremacists, have finally found in Donald Trump what they always wanted, the rebirth of Hitler.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Sorry, haven't updated in a

mykcob4 -So what are the odds now since Trump really stepped in it?

Sorry, haven't updated in a long time:

Hillary Clinton: 0.224

Donald Trump: 3.378

While I haven't scrolled back to check, I think this is the worst showing for Trump yet.

ThePragmatic's picture
It doesn't matter!

It doesn't matter!
Remeber, the polls are rigged, the media is conspiring against him, I bet even the bookies are rigging this on a global scale! Hmm, on second thought, since the bookies are in on it, I won't bet on that. But rest assured, he'll still win!

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I watched the debate

I watched the debate yesterday. I felt gross. Trump is the biggest retard ever.Hillary had to make some bullshit excuse about Lincoln for basically saying it is ok to lie to the public(though that's not really news). Hillary did sound better overall though. I just can't bring myself to trust her. Trump I feel is straight mentally disabled and somehow managed to sound stupider than his last debate. Wishful thinking but kinda want a third party to pull through for this election. Am I the only one? mykcob4 please don't weigh in. I'm over our issues I understand your position.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.173

Hillary Clinton: 0.173

Donald Trump: 4.252

Trump seems to be in freefall.

ThePragmatic's picture
I can't imagine why?

I can't imagine why?

Where's the Trump defenders trying to keep up appearances? Oh, here's one now:

“With all that’s going on with Trump and everybody screaming and hollering about that, when is the last time your pastor stood up in the pulpit and said, ‘Hey, listen, we cannot vote for Hillary Clinton because women are not to have authority over men’? If we want to follow the Bible, that would sure be a good place to start, wouldn’t it? Rather than worrying so much about the immorality of a sinful man, what about the biblical principle that when a woman rules over a man … it’s a sign of judgment of the Lord?”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/dave-daubenmire-we-cannot-vote-for-hi...

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Hillary Clinton: 0.157

Hillary Clinton: 0.157

Donald Trump: 4.543

There is starting to be some significant divergence between the sites. Some have Trump as high as 5.5, while some are as low as 3.0

CyberLN's picture
Sounds like the pussy is

Sounds like the pussy is grabbing back.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.157

Hillary Clinton: 0.157

Donald Trump: 4.548

Nyarlathotep's picture
Hillary Clinton: 0.166

Hillary Clinton: 0.166

Donald Trump: 4.427

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Hillary Clinton: 0.182

Hillary Clinton: 0.182

Donald Trump: 4.206

mykcob4's picture
I just wonder what the

I just wonder what the average IQ of Trump supports actually is. There is NOWAY to actually find out, but I bet it is under 100.
Trump actually said that he will not tell us if he will accept the election results. Which tells us that he doesn't believe in DEMOCRACY!
The PEW research center analyzed 1 Billion (that's with a "B") and found only 31 instances of voter fraud.
Clearly, Trump is partaking in the old GOP ploy of voter suppression.

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