Political odds - POTUS

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Political odds - POTUS

I hope to keep this thread updated with the current odds (from sports books) for the POTUS race. I've decided to go with UK fractional odds as they are probably the easiest to understand.

Understanding the numbers:
--this section has been edited to simplify it---
The number listed is how much you would win (profit) if you bet $1 on that candidate and they win.

Why:
I'm not suggesting people should gamble, but I am of the opinion that sports books provide the most unbiased predictions for political contests. This opinion is somewhat controversial. Now for today's post:
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Clinton has recently gained a bit more of a lead:

Clinton: 1/3
Trump: 3/1

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Clinton: 0.307 Trump: 2.540

Clinton: 0.307

Trump: 2.540

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Clinton: 0.309 Trump: 2.690

Clinton: 0.309

Trump: 2.690

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Clinton: 0.393 Trump: 1.940

Clinton: 0.393

Trump: 1.940

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Clinton: 0.474

Clinton: 0.474

Trump: 1.639

Wow, Trump getting closer to getting his hands on the Nuclear codes.

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That's impossible man, this

That's impossible man, this can't be happening!

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Clinton: 0.452 Trump: 1.700

Clinton: 0.452

Trump: 1.700

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Clinton: 0.390

Clinton: 0.390

Trump: 1.915

Finally some motion away from Trump.

Alembé's picture
He feels it too. He now

He feels it too. He now predicts that the election will be rigged:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/02/donald-trump-us-election...

ThePragmatic's picture
But has he forgotten that he

But has he forgotten that he doesn't care about that the system is rigged?

When he won over Ted Cruz, he clearly said so:
"You've been hearing me say it's a rigged system, but now I don't say it anymore because I won. It's true. Now I don't care. I don't care," - Donald Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppdS0JEK0io&feature=youtu.be&t=35

ThePragmatic's picture
It's moving in the less bad

It's moving in the less bad direction, thank god!
Oh wait, which god should I thank? I forget...

Deforres's picture
In the (excuse my language)

In the (excuse my language) clusterfu**k that is religion, I'm surprised the theists themselves think they know which God they follow.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Clinton: 0.373

Clinton: 0.373

Trump: 2.020

I know I just posted 6 hours ago, but things seem to be moving quickly right now.

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Nyarlathotep:

Nyarlathotep:
I would imagine that there be a particular sort of person to whom sports books appeal, such that the average political spread be skewed in favor of Trump. I'm not yet saying that you're wrong to try to use them, I just wondered why you think that they are among the less biased ways to accurately predict election results.

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M. V. Reeves - "I just

M. V. Reeves - "I just wondered why you think that they are among the less biased ways to accurately predict election results."

Money talks, bullshit walks?

But seriously, it something an associate of mine has been working on for a few years, and it has kind of got my attention. That's all.

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Clinton: 0.309

Clinton: 0.309

Trump: 2.430

Big changes since the conventions.

Deforres's picture
I just moved here, and the

I just moved here, and the presidential situation already looks bleak. Damn.

ThePragmatic's picture
The risk is that Trump pulls

The risk is that Trump pulls out all together. What then?!

Nyarlathotep's picture
I heard some pundit talking

I heard some pundit talking about this the other day. He said the RNC could replace the candidate and get a new one on enough ballot if the pull out was before September 1st. I have no idea if that is accurate.

On a related topic: The odds for Ryan have been improving (I haven't been posting them as they didn't seem important). Ryan has gone from 500 (average) to 56 (average), and as high as 10 in one sports book.

/e OK scratch that result of 10 for Ryan from that one sports book. I did a little digging they don't don't give long odds on anything; in fact the longest odds they give is about 10. So their rating of 10 don't mean much.

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The Pragmatic - "The risk is

The Pragmatic - "The risk is that Trump pulls out all together. What then?!"

A star appeared next to Ryan's name on one of the sites I get data from, it linked to this article:

http://www.oddschecker.com/tips/tv-and-specials/20160804-us-election-tru...

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I fear that Ted Cruz will be

I fear that Ted Cruz will be the runner up. But I don't know much about Paul Ryan, is he better or worse than Ted Cruz?

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Not much different, imo.

Not much different, imo.

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I guess the nicest thing I

I guess the nicest thing I can say about Cruz and Ryan is at least they aren't anti-vaxxers or birthers; unlike Trump.

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Clinton: 0.293 Trump: 2.610

Clinton: 0.293

Trump: 2.610

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Hillary Clinton: 0.259

Hillary Clinton: 0.259

Donald Trump: 2.962

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Hillary Clinton: 0.254

Hillary Clinton: 0.254

Donald Trump: 2.990

Seenyab4's picture
Honestly, I don't care about

Honestly, I don't care about the election anymore. I've accepted the fact that both candidates are complete (pardon me) shit. This country is screwed either way, so I'm just gonna sit back and watch everything unfold.

ThePragmatic's picture
I still think it's better to

Still, I think it's better to choose the lesser of two evils.

Seenyab4's picture
True enough, I suppose.

True enough, I suppose. Fortunately, I can't vote but if I had to, I guess Trump.

ThePragmatic's picture
Then I'm happy that you can't

Then I'm happy that you can't vote! :)

Seenyab4's picture
XD Yeah I don't know, I just

XD Yeah I don't know, I just think I couldn't let myself vote for someone as crooked as Hillary. Even though Trump is probably just as bad in those regards, it's just not evident enough. Either way we lose. If we get Hillary, we get someone who will only look out for her own self interest. If we vote for Trump, we get a messed up asshole with a screwed up ideology. I honestly can't tell which is more harmful.

Although I kind of like the wall idea XD

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