Senior violence epidemic

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ImFree's picture
This prognosis can be made

This prognosis can be made both ways however, I do think you will be more aware of your surroundings now and in the future whether you admit it or not.

chimp3's picture
Flaherty's agenda is clear.

Flaherty's agenda is clear. He wants to say black people are more violent than white people. He has to say it under the fallacy of a media conspiracy against the truth. Look who is being politically correct.

ImFree's picture
Once again: Video evidence

Once again: Video evidence and fact that despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks committed half of homicides in the United States for nearly 30 years. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

I wish everybody was peaceful. Being politically correct can get you killed if you make the wrong decision.

chimp3's picture
The causes of that30 year

The causes of that 30 year murder trend are well documented. Flaherty's hate and fear based propaganda had not contributed one iota of meaningful dialogue or solutions. You are not either. Face it , your in sunk cost fallacy now.

LogicFTW's picture
Lets digest those numbers for

Lets digest those numbers for a bit ImFree

First you went off topic from your original post by pointing to homicide rates rather then violence against white seniors.

Okay so..:
The blacks victim rate of homicide was 6 times higher than it is for whites at its peak, with the the black murder rate 7 times higher then white. So a vast majority of the homicide rate is against them selves, not towards whites. It sounds like black people could use a lot of help to try and lower these awful rates.

As I mentioned in other post, unless you are involved in the wrong things, or run with the wrong crowd, the chances of getting randomly "murdered" by a black person you never met, just... because your white? is next to nil. All this fear over stuff that will never happen to you.

Its an age old trick, just like the ones that religions use, fear, to get people to drop all reason and logic to ascribe to what ever snake oil the salesman is trying to sell.
Unless you live in bad parts of Detroit or Chicago, the odds of getting randomly murdered by a black guy (or anyone) is so low its silly to waste time even considering it. To do so is to play into someones agenda.

ImFree's picture
2015 FBI crime stats -

2015 FBI crime stats - Debunking the confirmation BIAS!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpQIWhdt-8

LogicFTW's picture
Okay watched your video..

Okay watched your video.

Your early statistics posting points out the most important part this video leaves out, blacks also are the victims of the increased rate of crime, against themselves, no where in this video does it talk about white victim rate versus black, your original point. The stats you posted earlier, showed 7x increase in murder rate over white, (inline with this video) but 6x increase in victim rate. Which means white people have little reason to fear black people over white people for murder, the last few percentage could be explained by racial profiling and over zealous cops arresting blacks for crimes they did not commit. I would imagine the reality of black on white crime is about the same as white on white crime. Throw in a cycle of poverty this disproportionately effects blacks, a criminal justice system that does not reform but condemn people to a life time of crime and honestly I am surprised these numbers are not worse.

Playing with stats and numbers to get them to say what you want is a trick as old as math it self.

He highlights total offences charged but ignores all but 6 categories, 6 categories that happen to emphasize black crime.

There has only been between around 500 murders by black people on white per year so far this century in the US. That is 1 in half a million chance you will get murdered by a black person. Of course if you are not a dumb ass, and avoid dangerous areas, crime, drugs etc that probably drops to about 1 in 20 million. Worrying about something happening to you that has a 1 in 20 million chance is absurd. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-ame...

He talks arrest rates, not conviction rates, we all know there is racial bias and profiling by police, hopefully the courts sort much of this out, but sadly all to often they do not. The failure of the criminal justice system especially for the poor and people not white is a whole other topic.

His bonus fact, ugh so many things wrong with that it makes my head hurt. If you really want me to break down why that one is so wrong then I can do that a bit later.

But yes, pure numbers, black people on a per capita basis get arrested for more crime then white people do. Does not mean a whole lot by it self. As a white person, the response should be, do what you always do, do not be a dumb ass, and 2nd try to help these people that has a system so stacked against them, instead of perpetuating the stereotype that feeds into this problem instead.

No where in these stats has there been anything on your original topic, violence towards elderly, that you have been trying to morph into a "black people are scary and bad and we must protect our selves from them."

ImFree's picture
That tin foil hat fits you

That tin foil hat fits you well : )

ImFree's picture
That tin foil hat fits you

That tin foil hat fits you well : )

LogicFTW's picture
That is your best response?

That is your best response?

LOL!!

Works for me, it seems you do not have a valid counter. Other then an Ad Hominem attack. My work here is done.

ImFree's picture
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! Works

LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! Works for me, if you want to waste your time with your conspiracy crap, be my guest LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

LogicFTW's picture
Probably for the best we stop

Probably for the best we stop, we have gone way way off topic within this topic, and off topic to these boards. For that, I apologize to other readers of this board.

It seems you are no longer interested in logical factual reasonable debate and moved on to childish attacks on my character. I lose interest in debate when the other side switches to simple name calling rather than debate with numbers and facts.

For those interested in this subject I leave it to them to draw their own conclusions.

ImFree's picture
In parting I wanted to give

In parting I wanted to give you a going away present to allow you to make the correct decision when and if you go to Miami Beach:

Murder and Mayhem and denial at 17th annual Black Beach Week in Miami Beach:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10-N4MfA0vw

Have a great day LogicForTW ; )

ImFree's picture
No, your in denial. I can not

No, your in denial. I can not help you.

2015 FBI crime stats - Debunking the confirmation BIAS!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpQIWhdt-8

F.B.I and U.S. Justice department Crime statistics.:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JbAO5_NMw

xenoview's picture
Did you read the article you

Did you read the article you just posted a link too? Black were victims of crime 6 times more than whites. Also if you noticed 45% of the crimes were committed by whites, 83% of the population.

ImFree's picture
2015 FBI crime stats -

2015 FBI crime stats - Debunking the confirmation BIAS!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpQIWhdt-8

xenoview's picture
Now tell us all who is more

Now tell us all who is more violent racial group? The blacks are 13% of population, committed 52% of murders, versus the whites that are 83% of population, committing 45% of murders?

EDIT.

ImFree's picture
Sure : )

Sure : )

Divide 52/13=4 and divide 45/83=.5421 now divide 4/.5421=7.38 times larger

Also watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0dbCWg_YI

2015 FBI crime stats - Debunking the confirmation BIAS!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpQIWhdt-8

ImFree's picture
2015 FBI crime stats -

2015 FBI crime stats - Debunking the confirmation BIAS!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpQIWhdt-8

Nyarlathotep's picture
Fucking white supremacist

Fucking white supremacist bullshit.

ImFree's picture
Bulllshit back here is a

Bulllshit back, here is a partial list of mall teen mob violence last Christmas.. Enjoy and if you can compile a list of mall white teen mob violence please list: I can hear the crickets already LOL!!!!

Beachwood Mall near Cleveland, Ohio
Buckland Hills Mall in Connecticut Destiny
USA Mall in Syracuse, New York
Arden Mall, Sacramento, CA
Hulen Mall in Fort Worth, Texas
Town East Mall, in Mesquite, Texas
Hamilton Place Mall in Chattanooga, Tennessee
Monroeville Mall, Monroeville, PA
Fashion Fair Mall in Fresno, California
Independence Mall near Kansas City, black mob violence
North Riverside Park Mall, North Riverside, Illinois reports of shootings
Fox Valley Mall, Aurora, Illinois Mallfights reported
Aurora Mall, Denver, Co
Roosevelt Field mall in East Garden City, Long Island, New York
The Jersey Gardens Mall
Westfarms Mall, West Hartford, CT
Westridge Mall in Topeka, Kansas

chimp3's picture
ImFree : You are like

ImFree : You are like Kissinger and Nixon bombing Cambodia on this one. Best pull out now!

ImFree's picture
Sounds more like a bad date

Sounds more like a bad date you had or like Clinton and Lewinsky and your in denial of the spot on the dress

chimp3's picture
I vote libertarian. Don't

I vote libertarian. Don't give me your White Nationalist anti-Clinton drivel! There is nothing wrong with sex between consenting adults. I voted for Johnson. I was hoping for a pothead for President this year. Imagine the headlines:

"U.S. President Forgot to Shake Macrons Hand! Found Enjoying Himself at Buffet!"

ImFree's picture
I support Bernie Sanders. He

I support Bernie Sanders. He might be lacking in crime enforcement some but every candidate has something not to agree with. I am tired of bad and worse to vote for. The war on pot is wearing down much to big pharma's dislike. It is only a matter of time until it is legal. I cannot stand Trump or Hillary.

chimp3's picture
Sanders supports Weed

Sanders supports Weed Legalization. He wants to make me pay for your college education when I can not afford to pay for my own kids college education. I wish my kids to have a good education but with your reasoning about racial violence I do not want to pay for yours. A mind is a terrible thing to pay for when it is wasted.

ImFree's picture
I paid off my student loans.

I paid off my student loans. Sooooooo.....glad I did. Proud to say I never missed a payment. Towards the end I paid several lump sums. Collectors follow people to the grave with student debt. Hopefully your kids will not be attacked at school before they finish college. Howard Stern can tell you what he experienced growing up. Not good.

chimp3's picture
Howard Stern's High School

Howard Stern's High School experiences do not shape my world view.

ImFree's picture
A mind is a terrible thing to

A mind is a terrible thing to waste when accompanied with a cracked skull. Howard was forced to learn the hard way. Hope your kids never have to experience what he did. His parents are lucky he was not injured from the abuse they forced him to be exposed to.

Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Na3vzbpeI
Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83rAMTvq8P0

chimp3's picture
They? You have a very twisted

They? You have a very twisted view of race in American schools if you think Stern's experiences with being picked on is the norm.

This is what most Black people of my generation went through : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine

As I said , my daughter is mixed race. She had to bear with me protecting her from skinheads. I still fear for her safety.

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