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Yeah, I already admitted to making that mistake. Now tell us: do you think the Exodus was real?
I dont know
@Rickswordfish
Yay you now admit you are agnostic. Don't feel bad, everyone is agnostic, you are, I am, the pope is, everyone.
@Nyarlathotep: 'I' was the first to mention it when I asked him to choose a prophecy and that Danial was not a prophet. DEBUNKED//
(Edit: The omitted word "I" was added.)
"Now, is there anything else I need to do here before taking another coding break with the dreaded Visual Basic for Applications, or can I consider my work done here?"
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Earlier you hinted that the Bible is the word of god. Are you suggesting that the word of God might be false?
No i said im worried the bible is the word of god, i dont know if it is or not but with seemingly fulfilled prophecies like the one in daniel 9 its starting to look like it is
@Rickswordfish
Do you think Adam and Eve were real?
Do you think Noah, the Ark, and the flood described in Genesis was real?
Do you think Moses, the Exodus, parting the sea was real?
Do you think the sun stopped in the sky for Joshua?
Do you really think Jesus feed the multitudes with a hand full of fish and bread?
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If you aren't skeptical of those claims above, I think you are currently beyond reach.
If you are skeptical of them; why would you pay any attention to a prophecy and the claim of that prophecy's fulfillment from a source you are admittedly skeptical of?
Im an agnostic idk if the stories in the bible are true or not there are many ways of looking at the bible, but I always approach everything with skepticism
If you think those stories might be true; I'd say you are pretty far gone.
Why?
@Rickswordfish
"why?"
Because then you would value what people say as truth more than actual truth.
@Rickswordfish
"No i said im worried the bible is the word of god, i dont know if it is or not but with seemingly fulfilled prophecies like the one in daniel 9 its starting to look like it is"
I always try to give anyone a second chance.
I would like to give an example. If I said 99 things that were true and accurate, is that any guarantee that my 100th utterance will be true and accurate?
Of course not, because this is how con-men operate. They suck you into believe they are honest and wonderful people just before they sell you a deed to a plot in the Antarctic.
So even if you discover 99 things in the bible you believe are true, that does not mean that the next passage is accurate and true. This is part of skepticism, each individual sentence and fact must be able to stand on it's own, nothing is assumed just because other items discussed are accurate and true.
Theres a difference between rational skepticism and over skepticism
@Rickswordfish: There is a difference between being able to read and being illiterate. There is a difference between sword fish and frogs. There is a difference between and IQ of 83 and one approaching 100. There is a difference between having credibility and having none. Only one of these things has anything to do with the OP. Can you use your skeptical ability to figure out which one?
Go fuck yourself
Rickswordfish I am not trying to bait or troll you, but what is the difference between rational skepticism and over skepticism?
And which position works better in the real world? Do I trust the traffic light, or do I make sure by also looking both ways?
Overskepticism is remaining skeptical no matter how much evidence is presented
@Rickswordfish
"Overskepticism is remaining skeptical no matter how much evidence is presented"
There is a vast difference between being over-skeptical and refusing to accept any proof or evidence. I do accept that I am over-skeptical, but if I face enough evidence, I am willing (and have) changed my position.
Skeptical: not easily convinced; having doubts or reservations.
Look at it this way Rickswordfish. In almost every aspect of our normal non-theistic activities, from driving in traffic to taking out a mortgage, to deciding on what color to paint a room, we exercise a certain amount of skepticism. It maybe the desire for self-preservation to protecting our hard-earned resources. But it is part of what makes us human.
So to completely abandon skepticism when religion is involved is, on my opinion, accepting crap without any proof or evidence.
The bible was complied from multiple unknown sources over an unknown number of years many years after jesus. Everything in it should be carefully examined for it's veracity.
@Rickswordfish: No! Over-skepticism is not being able to recognize a fact from an assertion and insisting that it's all the same thing. The perfect example is the theist assertion "Well, evolution is just a theory." Being skeptical, is not the same thing as applying skepticism to a situation that is completely unwarranted. An inability to be skeptical in the proper way is just ignorance.
@Rickswordfish: RE: "Over-skepticism is remaining skeptical no matter how much evidence is presented" NO! Over skepticism is choosing to be ignorant regardless of the evidence. The more your beliefs comport with reality, the healthier you are. Belief is allocated to the degree of evidence.
You mean like creationists? I'm not sure I'd call that level of denial skepticism, more like delusional. Like those nut jobs who claim the moon landings were faked.
On the whole skepticism is a good thing, and all claims should be treated with skepticism unless sufficient objective evidence is demonstrated to support them.
@Rickswordfish
Okay I agree.
Good thing we do not have to worry about be overly skeptical on anything that relates to god/religion.
Why? Because there has been ZERO evidence presented.
If you disagree, you need to look up the definition of evidence.
@Rickswordfish: RE: "I always approach everything with skepticism>"
FACE PALM!
I do however think jesus was real and was some kind of divine being but i believe the gospels may misrepresent him
V.S.
Who says i cant believe somethings and be skeptical about others
@Rickswordfish
If you believe Jesus was a divine being; then you've already swallowed the non-sense; hook, line, and sinker.
It is also getting harder to ignore the suspicion that you are /e NOT here to get help with understanding how the scam of prophecy works.
I also believe the bible might be wrong about what he said and did
Ok how does it work and why do you think all the bible prophecies are scams
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