What is with Atheists these days?
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Fine, then demonstrate some demonstrable evidence that your magical imaginary friend exists.
Come on, we're waiting...
I'm sure it'll be the same as the other bollocks theists come out with, logical arguments or dodge the point.
Proselytizing sermons are not usually bothered about supporting their grandiose verbiage with evidence, and with good reason.
They're holding an an empty bag in terms of evidence.
I shall be the first to admit this may not be all theists, but it is the largest majority.
Sun, 01/20/2019 - 16:28
"What is with Atheists these days?
Q: What is so ironic about Atheists?
A: They're always talking about God"
A person would have to be particularly stupid not to see the irony of a theist coming to an atheist forum to make such an idiotic statement.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, theists are irony impaired. I think it warrants some funded research.
DOESATHEISMEVENMAKESENSE at first : "Seems almost to me that these attitudes prove why Christianity is valuable. It encourages soft dialogue rather than a hateful stampede ....."
DOESATHEISMEVENMAKESENSE, moments later: "You’re a fucking nuisance."
@CHK-C, regarding your brilliant summation of DOESATHEISMEVENMAKESENSE's 180.
Amazing how sometimes the shortest, most simple demonstrations end up being more effective than all the research and well-thought out response you could possibly throw at someone.
Clear, concise, and straight to the point. Me like! ... *grin*... Outstanding!
I admit this to be funny and clearly a mistake on my part. But to celebrate it as a win is dishonest. If anything you should be sympathetic to the fact that we are all weak. We all struggle to do what we want to improve ourselves. You know why 90%of dieters give up? Because we are weak. Give me a pass on this one guys, and let’s not use the easiest of examples to disqualify an entire religion.
Aaaaad a re run of the Humble brag and faux humility......here's the thing DAE, try being yourself, either the dick or the humblebragger. Nobody really minds which. Or even be somewhere in between, whichever is the real you.
You complain that I attacked you personally, well, that is just not true as there have been several "you" so far in the short time you have been here, so which one am I attacking?...that is right all of them because not one is the real you.
You are not humble we know, you are a braggart, we know, you are fucking rude, we know...so as they say true colours dude. Try just being you. BTW when you have bourbon, man...calling Cog a "toad" wtf? then coming with this? Alcoholic remorse or what? Cogs a chimp buddy, not even a kindly Bonobo, he is a fucking chimp. Funny you are.
Just try being you ok?
BTW your religion is already disqualified by much bigger things including history than your little foot stamper.
Why do you say things like this man? I’m not “faux humility” I am genuine humility who sometimes falls into pride. I know this is my biggest fault. The same fault that Lucifer had. He thought he was better than God. The whole idea of Christianity is to acknowledge where we screwed up, and try to be better. I am not perfect, and neither are you. Trying to discredit my perspective because I used a swear word is not constructive nor honest...
@DAEMS Re: "Trying to discredit my perspective because I used a swear word is not constructive nor honest..."
Psssst.... Hey.... Junior.... Nobody here gives a fuck if you have a potty mouth. What you obviously fail to realize is that you are getting hammered NOT for your (amateur) use of foul language, but more for your wishy-washy, intoxicated, whiny-ass, hypocritical behavior. Start acting like a respectable human being, and you will start being treated as such. Until then, whatever you toss out will get tossed right back to you. Maybe you should consider wearing a helmet with some knee and elbow pads if you plan on hanging around. Just a suggestion...
Oh, and I have yet to see any atheists on here suggest he/she is perfect. We are more honest and realistic than that. What I HAVE seen, however, is that when one of us DOES happen to screw up, we have no problem owning up to our mistakes. And we do not try to pawn our errors off on to somebody else or on to some imaginary entity. With YOU, on the other hand, it has been nothing but, "Waaaaaah.... It's not my fault, it's the booze!" Or, "Booo-hooo.... The devil made me do it. Please feel sorry for me." Oh, and here's a good one, "(*nervous laugh*) Oh - heh-heh-heh - Sorry, guys. I didn't really mean that. I was only joking." It's okay, though. Because all you have to do is go pray to your god and ask for forgiveness, and you are in the clear. You do not have to take any responsibilities for your words or actions. Your god has your back, so you will be fine.
“What I HAVE seen, however, is that when one of us DOES happen to screw up, we have no problem owning up to our mistakes.”
I have not seen that here so far sir.
@AJ777 Re: "I have not seen that here so far sir."
LMAO..... Oh, lawdy! THAT coming from a guy who persistently ignores and refuses to answer any direct questions in any form of honest and candid manner.... *shaking my head in total amusement*.... Uh, yeah... I'll be sure to take your comment into consideration... *snicker-snicker*....
STOPPIT!! The irony is burning me ...burning my precious....!!!!
Perhaps it is because none of us have fucked up like you have.
Every post you have made has been deceitful, evasive, misleading, alternating the discussion in an attempt to force the burden of proof upon us. All you can do is lie and answer our questions with your own, deceptively dodging our questions, just like a squirmy eel.
I appreciate you saying that, although so far I have no reason to believe it. I made a few personal attacks when I was drunk and you continue to use it against me. You say you don’t care how I talk, yet every argument you have posed has been about my my manner of speech rather than logic of argument.
I have also been the most honest person here. I continue to comment, change my mind, offend, defend, and state my personal beliefs. Maybe I’m inconsistent, but that’s because I’m actually learning from these conversations. Isn’t that what you want? How can you say an absolutist Christian is unwavering and then when I concede something you attack me for it and use it as a reason to discredit everything I’ve said before it?
You all marvel at the comments that throw me from my throne yet none of you acknowledge your own hypocrisy. I hope I’m around long enough to see you admit it. Attack me all you want. It doesn’t shake me.
Hey tin man...I will not be beaten down by your personal attacks against my character. I may not be able to defend myself well in this forum, but I know In reality who I am. I am not “faux”. I consider myself fucking lucky I am here to even have this stupid conversation with you.
DAE, you wrote, “I have also been the most honest person here.”
Please let us know how, specifically, each poster has been less honest than you.
@DAEMS Re: "I appreciate you saying that, although so far I have no reason to believe it..... (and everything that followed)"
...*deeeeep breath*..... *exhaling slowly*.... *wiping tears from eyes*.... *blowing nose*..... Wooooo.... Oh-my-goodness... My apologies. Just trying to regain my composure a bit. Phew!... *chuckle*.... *hugging rib cage area*... Ouch... Honestly, it should be crime to laugh that much. Mercy me!... Okay, I think I'm good now. Sooo....
Numero uno: Were you drunk when you chose your user name and posted your OP? Those two items alone are a rather blatant blast at every atheist on here. Don't get me wrong, I actually somewhat admire and appreciate the "humor" behind them. No problems in that respect. But don't go whining and acting all indignant when folks toss it back to you. That's rather like going up to a hornets' nest and poking it with a stick, but then bitching and crying and acting all surprised when your dumb ass gets stung.... *chuckle*...
Next... You're the most honest person here???... Ummmm.... Gonna let that one slide before I go into another fit of uncontrollable laughter.
Re: "Maybe I’m inconsistent, but that’s because I’m actually learning from these conversations. Isn’t that what you want?"
Absolutely we want you to start learning. That is one of the reasons we are here. Now would be a good time for you to start.
Re: "How can you say an absolutist Christian is unwavering and then when I concede something you attack me for it and use it as a reason to discredit everything I’ve said before it?"
For starters, I don't care if you are the Pope, or if you are Richard Dawkins. You act like a twit, you get treated like a twit. Simple as that. As far as "discrediting" things you say, you did that to yourself. I spent twenty years on patrol interrogating and interviewing all manner of people in all manners of situations. And when a person starts off with a lie, then every single thing after that is totally suspect. You dug that hole, not me nor anybody else here.
Re: "You all marvel at the comments that throw me from my throne..."
Soooo... You are saying you had yourself seated upon a throne when you graced us with your presence? And yet you claim WE are arrogant?... LMAO... Irony much?... *shaking head in amusement*... Oh, and once again, YOU are the one responsible for dethroning yourself. The only thing we have done is hold a mirror to your face in an attempt to have you recognize your childish and hypocritical behavior. Not my fault if you do not like the reflection looking back at you.
Well, I could go on, but I do believe that is enough for the moment. Besides, my lovely wife just got home and I need to listen to her day. Oh, one little suggestion... You might want to consider not digging that hole any deeper. Later, dude. Oh, and thanks for the laughs... *chuckle*...
What logic, you've offered no rational argument that I've seen? Why do theists invoke logic as if the claim lends credence to irrational fallacies? It's as if they don't know how to use a dictionary.
The rest of your disjointed diatribe suggests you may still be drinking to be honest.
Here's some free advice, if you want to hear the opinion of atheists, and one assumes you must otherwise why come to an atheists forum, don't get so chippy and defensive when those atheists offer their opinions. Else we will be forced to assume you came here just to provoke a response and tour posts so far have offered nothing cogent beyond confrontation and trolling.
Your thread title in an atheist forum says it all really. Compounded by the fact you areas ignorant about atheism and atheists as any theist we've seen in here.
Atheists "These days" are no longer in danger of their lives for speaking their minds. I suggest you come to terms with that, and maybe ask yourself what it is about their opinions you fear so much you imply they should not be allowed to voice those opinions.
You could start by demonstrating some objective evidence that any deity exists, as no other theist or apologist whose come here has managed this yet. Despite some fairly grandiose claims.
Your first post was a personal attack on "all atheists" then you went to a variety of attacks like "toad" " fucking nuisance" in between posts about being drunk, being sorry and then whining about how everyone attacks you! LOL!
Who the fuck invited your sorry ass here to whinge about your self?
BTW you don't have any "manner of speech" just a palpable, evident falseness.
You are becoming very reminiscent of another faux theist here...got himself banned for exactly the same BS....
No you have not, you have been the most whingy, whinyass avoidant poster here.
BTW 200ML of Bourbon? That got you drunk? How much do you weigh? 10Kg?
I have made several questions/statements about your particular faith and you have failed to answer any.
Try doing that small thing and you may garner some respect.
"Give me a pass on this one guys, and let’s not use the easiest of examples to disqualify an entire religion."
Can you clearly state what the purpose of Christianity is?
"ou know why 90%of dieters give up? Because we are weak."
Not even close to true, we are programmed by evolution to sate our appetite when food is available, because for millions of years we didn't have a surfeit of food as we now do because of industrialised farming. It's not a weakness at all, it was essential to our survival until very recently, now we have to re-programme behaviours established by millions of years of evolution in just a few hundred years.
What you say is true. But not the entire picture. Are you saying you never make a conscious choice against your biology because you know it won't be good for you?
In an alcoholic's case, it is a battle between the chemical addiction and the consciousness knowing it is destructive behavior. He has the choice to give in to his biology or to resist it for the better. If he gives in, his conscious behavior was weaker than his biological impulse.
In a dieter's case, it is a battle between the DNA and the consciousness knowing it is destructive behavior. He has the choice to give in to his biology or to resist it for the better. If he gives in, his conscious behavior was weaker than his biological impulse.
In a man's case, it is a battle between his biological impulses for sexual reproduction and the consciousness knowing he can't have sex with whomever he wants, whenever he wants, where ever he wants, because it is destructive. He has the choice to give in to his biology or to resist it for the better. If he gives in, his conscious behavior was weaker than his biological impulse.
In the case of an athlete, or academic, or parent etc, it is a battle between the body wanting to give up and the consciousness knowing it is has to keep training, working, parenting. He has the choice to give in to his biology or to resist it for the better. If he gives in, his conscious behavior was weaker than his biological impulse.
In my case, it is a battle between my deep biological urge to cuss at you and my consciousness knowing that I shouldn't. In this case, I am stronger than my urge : )
All of these things are battles we have on a daily basis. All of these things are us trying to ignore some of our biological urges, and trying to transcend them.
Do you disagree with this, Sheldon?
*interesting thought...it seems that a lot of the tragedy that befalls us humans (ie anger, revenge, sexual pleasure, slavery, tyranny) all deep rooted in our biology, and we continue to fight against the urges every day.
P.S. Thank you for making a post without using an insult as a precursor. I appreciate it
Don't know about Sheldon, but I'll let you know about me.
Yep, including the entire picture. You just do not see it. As far as making a conscious choice against mine own biology, well, let's see…
After the deaths of my family, I was alcoholic and a drug abuser. In two years, I wasted all the insurance money. Got involuntarily institutionalized due to attempted suicide with a 10-gauge shotgun using a slug shell. Want to know how many times I have actually drank any alcohol or other drugs in the last 15 years? Let's just say it was so few times, fighting the urge to get some, I cannot even guess. Let's just say the last two times were at Thanksgiving in 2017 and about two weeks ago. You can see the "drunk" post I made here. If I can do it, anybody can.
Way back in 1986 I had a life moment that severely caused me to change my diet from being literally a carnovore, to almost a complete vegetarian. Sometimes that is what it takes.
But why always esist it? There is always every man's best friend known as Arnold Plamer and His Five Sisters.
WTFGDH does this even mean?
Aww… give in. I do occasionally. I'll get you starter you sorry, no-good-for-nothing, Mr. Poopie Head. Good enough? Or do you like it rough?…
Actually, they are not day to day. They are urges to deal with from 1 Planck Time Unit to 1 Planck Time Unit.
See directly above.
Appreciate your reply. Sounds like you agree! YAY! We are becoming fast friends, you and I.
I forgot to add that my "life moment" was in the form of mild heart attack because my total cholesterol was 389 with 180 being max. I had to change my diet. And ever since, my heart is still in perfect shape. About half a year ago, I had a cardiac stress (something) test. They said my heart was as healthy as any man in his mid-30s. Change of diet and lots of hiking and bicycling. The wonders they work.
With your user name, why would an atheist take you seriously?
Come on guys, I thought the username was pretty funny. Sorry I offended y'all.
So I want to keep posting here, as I am having some fun. But in order to avoid the mob, I will list my personal rules, as kindly provided by you guys, and I will try to keep them in mind while posting. (You could say, the 10 commandments when posting in an atheist forum)
1) No posting while intoxicated
2) No apologizing
3) No insulting or "poking the hornets nest"
4) No swearing
4) Respond to EVERY SINGLE COMMENT, even when they repeat themselves
5) Begin to learn something
6) Start posting unique defenses against Christianity
7) Attempt to be more coherent for once
8) Stop using logic to defend Christianity
9) Stop offering opinions in opposition to those present
10) Stop making jokes, that right is only reserved for the atheists
Okay, keeping these things in mind, let's continue!
P.S. These rules only go into effect after this post. : )
8) STOP using LOGIC to defend Christianity... Why the Hell are you here so...
No, that was a serious question...care to answer it? If you are asserting that atheists are less receptive than theists, yet have a username that is provocative and condescending, why would any atheist take you seriously? It shows, before any specific debate has even begun. that your intent is not to have stimulating intercourse, but to discredit and act slanderous. So, again, with honesty and respect, with a username like yours, why would any atheist take you seriously?