Allah is ENERGY

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Matheist's picture
What is there other than

What is there other than ENERGY?

Can you prove it?

This is the burden of proof for rejecting "EVERYTHING IS ENERGY (ALLAH)"

http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/allah-energy?page=2#co...

arakish's picture
matheist: "This is the burden

matheist: "This is the burden of proof for rejecting "EVERYTHING IS ENERGY (ALLAH)" "

There is neither evidence nor proof in the provided link. Just some inane babble.

rmfr

Matheist's picture
The show me the proof

Then show me the proof "everything is NOT ENERGY (the capacity for doing work)"

Where is your proof?

Matheist's picture
Here is Allah

Here is Allah

Moses said ‘[Allah is] LordLaw of the East and West and everything between them. If you would only use your reason!’ (Quran 26:28)

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arakish's picture
@ matheist

@ matheist

You do realize that Moses NEVER existed. And the only reason the Qu'ran existed is because a thieving war-lord, child molester hid in a cave while he plagiarized the Bible into the Qu'ran. Then when he came out, he was still so delusional and megalomaniacal that he began killing everyone who refused to believe his plagiarized bullshit book.

Even with that image you are still only making a preposterous, irrational, imbecilic, asinine, unbelievable, make-believe fantasy Sky Faerie claim.

Where is the OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE?

Do you even know what OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE is?

Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit non ei qui negat.

rmfr

Matheist's picture
vice versa and not an issue..

vice versa and not an issue..

The issue: How does that change the fact that EVERYTHING IS ENERGY?

Do you have prove to support existence other than ENERGY?

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This is the "OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE"

1. Energy (Allah) exists

2. You have no existence (atoms are empty space)

arakish's picture
If this is directed to my

If this is directed to my reply, then you should address it so.

Otherwise, WTFGDH kind of stupid retarded bullshit did you just spew?

rmfr

Matheist's picture
@arakish

@arakish

Okay, so where is the proof for "everything is NOT ENERGY (the capacity for doing work)"?

arakish's picture
@ matheist

@ matheist

When did I say this: "everything is NOT ENERGY (the capacity for doing work)"? ??

Can someone please explain to me why theists have to lie all the damn time putting words into other person's written text?

Go back to school and learn how to read.

It seems LANGUAGE eludes you.

rmfr

Cognostic's picture
Language is not his forte and

Language is not his forte and English is obviously a second language. So he has a triple handicap. He does not understand the crap he is saying and he has no ability for rational thought or critical insight. He is making an attempt at presuppositional bullshit but failing horribly.

Matheist's picture
This is creationism.

This is creationism.

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arakish's picture
@ matheist

@ matheist

This is creationism.

Where? I see nothing having to do with creationism.

rmfr

Randomhero1982's picture
A Muslim creationist, can

A Muslim creationist, can this be topped in the scale of piss your pants funny?

Matheist's picture
Do you realize there is no

Do you realize there is no value in a blind claim?

You need to prove things in existence and other than ENERGY (the capacity for doing work)...

That is your burden of proof for rejecting everything is ENERGY. ... still waiting.

dogalmighty's picture
"Do you realize there is no

"Do you realize there is no value in a blind claim?"

Exactly what everyone on this thread realizes, and you don't.

arakish's picture
@ matheist

@ matheist

Do you realize there is no value in a blind claim?

Can you please explain why you have not realized that EVERYTHING you have posted is thus?

rmfr

Randomhero1982's picture
Have you suffered a brain

Have you suffered a brain injury?

In the realm of cosmology, fields are not energy and neither is radiation.

Now it's your turn, demonstrate there even is an Allah.

You made the claim, a logical arguement! The burden of proof is on you.

If you fail, then your entire arguement is null and void and rejected.

You have made a logical argument and committed a cardinal sin by using the fallacy of shifting the burden of proof.

Matheist's picture
It is Energy

It is Energy

IF Energy
THEN capacity for doing work/make changes
ELSE not Energy (without the capacity for doing work/make changes - AND you cannot identify it)

@Randomhero1982Now it's your turn, demonstrate there even is an Allah.

Allah is Energy and..

You cannot prove your own existence other than the transformation of Energy (Light upon light. Quran 24:35)

That is the proof for Energy (Allah).

There is no reality but Energy (Allah).

Your turn.

Please prove your own existence.

How?

Cognostic's picture
This is not even coherent

This is not even coherent English.

arakish's picture
@ matheist

@ matheist

Allah is the "Light (Energy)".

I am still waiting for your OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.

Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit non ei qui negat.

Evidently you missed where I posted this:

An official explanation of “The Burden of Proof” I have synthesized from a few sources.

The Burden of Proof (Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit non ei qui negat.) shall forever lie with those who make the claims about anything. Carl Sagan once said, “Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence.” If you propose the existence of something, anything, you MUST follow the Scientific Method in your defense of its existence. Otherwise, I have no reason to believe your preposterous claims. Hearsay (personal experience) is the worst possible form of any kind of evidence. ALL religious texts are nothing more than 100% hearsay. Thus, I have no reason to believe any religious text as any kind of proof.

For a primer (and web portal) about the Scientific Method, use this Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method. See the sections of “See also,” “Notes,” “References,” “Further reading,” “Bibliography,” and/or “External links.”

Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit non ei qui negat.

Show me the OBJECTIVE HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.

rmfr

Matheist's picture
You're saying I need to prove

You're saying I need to prove Energy exists?

I don't need to prove Energy (the capacity for doing work) exists.

Everything is Energy.

It is your burden of proof since your argument Energy does not exist.

Can you understand the issue in this thread; "Allah is ENERGY"?

http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/allah-energy?page=3#co...

arakish's picture
@ matheist

@ matheist

O! MY! FUCKING! SHIT! PISS!

God Damnit yungun, why can you not read and comprehend?

Sorry, but I am through with dealing you _______, ______, ________, _________.

rmfr

Cognostic's picture
Told you. A presuppositional

Told you. A presuppositional argument. If Allah is energy, he is completely unnecessary, we already have a word for energy. We call it energy. If you want to call it Allah, feel free. Obviously praying to energy five times a day is a frigging act in futility. Try praying to the energy of a fire and making it cool. Pray for a drop of rain's energy to slow down. I can take Allah and shove him up a pigs ass to kill the pig.

Video of Allah Killing Pigs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A2bR44MQmU

What else can Allah/energy do?

dogalmighty's picture
"You're saying I need to

"You're saying I need to prove Energy exists?"

NO

You need to prove your god exists.

Matheist's picture
MY ARGUMENT

MY ARGUMENT
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1. Energy exists.

2. Everything is Energy.

3. Ancient people call that Energy as Light

4. I call that Energy as Allah.

5. These people call Energy as:

Bangla: শক্তি
Bulgarian: Енергия
Chinese Simplified: 能源
Chinese Traditional: 能源
Cantonese (Traditional): 能源
Fijian: Kaukauwa
Filipino: Enerhiya
Greek: Ενέργεια
Hebrew: אנרגיה
Hindi: ऊर्जा
Hmong Daw: Zog
Icelandic: Orku
Japanese: エネルギー
Kiswahili: Nishati
Klingon: HoS
Klingon (pIqaD): 
Korean: 에너지
Malagasy: Hery
Malay: Tenaga
Persian: انرژی
Russian: Энергия
Samoan: Malosi
Serbian (Cyrillic): Енергија
Tahitian: Puai
Tamil: ஆற்றல்
Telugu: శక్తి
Thai: พลังงาน
Tongan: Ivi
Ukrainian: Енергія
Urdu: توانائی
Vietnamese: Năng lượng
Welsh: Ynni

http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/allah-energy?page=3#co...

Therefore:

He made all gods (energy) same god (energy). (Quran 38:5)

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@ Mathias

@ Mathias

Logical flaw viz:

Y ARGUMENT
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1. Energy exists.

2. Everything is Energy.

3. Ancient people call that Energy as Light

4. I call that Energy as Walter.

5> Walter is a wombat that lives in my garden

6. Walter lays square poops on bits of my garden (latent energy)

7. Those poops energise seeds (after the rains) that use the energy to grow.

8. Therefore Walter is god.

Prove me wrong.

dogalmighty's picture
"Walter is a wombat that

"Walter is a wombat that lives in my garden"

LOL

This Allah ha ha is a wombat.

Matheist's picture
When he came to the Fire he

You're right

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When he came to the Fire he was called: "O Moses. I (FIRE) am ALLAH!" (Quran 20:13)

(Like the fire of Moses which he saw as what he needed. It was Allah but he did not perceive it.)

Moses said ‘[Allah is] LordLaw of the East and West AND EVERYTHING BETWEEN THEM. If you would only use your reason!’ (Quran 26:28)

Allah is the light of everything. (Quran 24:35)

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He is responsible for

He is responsible for EVERYTHING [of its Cause & Effect]. (Quran 6:102)

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Nyarlathotep's picture
Matheist - EVERYTHING IS

Matheist - EVERYTHING IS ENERGY

Energy is just one attribute of a system, and its a scalar quantity. Just as you might have a certain amount of money in the bank (say 50 dollars), but you are not money; a particle might have a certain amount of energy (say 125 GeV), but that particle is not energy.

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