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EVERYBODY! QUIET!... QUIET ON THE FORUM! i just had the most AWESOME idea!
With all this talk about voices in the head and multiple personalities and schizophrenia and such, I just thought of a fantastic way to rake in a BUNCH of FREE money! Listen up. You're gonna love it!...
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I have just Kevin Spencer talking in my head.The problem is that he has Allen the goose talking in his head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0umo4VkQ3o
I'm forever alone but forever entertained by the outcome when I pretend to not hear the other two. They are very convicing sometimes and I have no fuckin remorse for my actions as much as I dont have any regret for the 5 mins I stopped to sign along to Justin Beiber thinking awful thoughts. I'm feeling very mischievous and I have no willpower to shut it up tonight...ooops
I was talking to my penis the other night and it winked at me. Does that count as a voice communicating non-verbally in my head? I'm only asking because it really bothered me. Does anyone else's penis wink at them? I'm just not feeling normal right now.
It counts. He’s just saying, “yep. We’re on the same page, bud” or ie. “I know what you’re thinking”. Now, hopefully he wasn’t coming on to you and he was just saying, “I think about women a lot too.” If it’s the former - well ...
You just broke my crazy meter.
Seriously have you ever sought clinical help for these delusions? All joking aside, a productive fulfilled life may be a prescription away.
So naive. And he calls me self obsessed. You are the quintessential narcissist, Sheldon. Your weak ego hides behind a conflagration of vocabulary and some basic knowledge of how to argue philosophically. Based on your comment that your wife calls your penis small, I really have to wonder what you’re self esteem is like beyond the protection of a screen and a keyboard. I’ve always found that those who lash out the hardest on the internet have the lowest self esteem irl.
Ooh, low blow, man. We don’t penis shame here. Hell, I poop and pee from the same cloaca over here, and it gets all the hens hot and bothered.
Penis shame is the only kind of shame Sheldon can appreciate. I am only stuping to his level. As for your cloaca - more power to you. You don’t bother separating shit and piss. It all just comes out in one whitish, goopy slop. Evolution at its best.
rat spit "I’ve always found that those who lash out the hardest on the internet have the lowest self esteem"
I can't say, it's possible I suppose, self obsessed people are as likely to have low self esteem as they are to be narcissists. Though I don't think a narcissist can have a weak ego, as you have claimed here. I'd say quite the opposite was true.
However lets take a look at some of your recent contributions over the last week.
Sun, 11/11/2018 - 14:47 rat spit "You’re a prick."
today 20:48 rat spit "You are the quintessential narcissist, Sheldon."
today 21:39 rat spit "Penis shame is the only kind of shame Sheldon can appreciate."
today 21:39 rat spit "You don’t bother separating shit and piss. It all just comes out in one whitish, goopy slop. "
Self awareness doesn't seem to be your bag at all. Ironic really given how clearly self obsessed your posts are. The only thing you mention more than "the self" is "penis size", a Freudian would have a field day I think.
I happen to like my penis. I quite attached to it, in fact.
Okay. Look. Your avatar is a virgin with aspergers who is fond of saying, “I’m right. You’re wrong.” You’re the quintessential academic snob.
But, I’ll use this space to point something out. You can’t possibly understand me and my phenomenal view point. However, I understand you perfectly. When you think (regardless of whether that thought is controlled, wanted, unwanted, pernicious, denigrating, etc) you are compelled to believe that your inner voice is you.
I know this position very well. The fact that you cannot understand mine, tied in with your endless weak arguments and insults just go to show how boxes in your thinking is.
Well I am happy for anyone to read these exchanges and decide for themselves who is resorting to ad hominem. As of course you have done here yet again. you can insult me all you want, it won't make any difference at all to me, you're just showing your true colours and the true colours of your woo woo beliefs.
Everyone can see your posts are the worst kind of vapid superstition. Nothing you have posted suggest you understand reality at all, and I have met plenty of religious apologists exactly like you, who start with faux piety and unctuous fake friendliness, then start threatening hell fire, and then eventually, exactly like you turn into nasty aggressive keyboard warriors when it finally dawns on them their superstitious guff is not making any converts.
It's a simple fact that you have been unable to demonstrate one shred of objective evidence for your ludicrous beliefs. Even making the asinine claim that objective evidence doesn't exist. So throw all the tantrums you like sunshine, you can cry me a river.
Your inner voice is delusional...seek help.
Pot calling the kettle black. The superstition, Sheldon, is that your inner voice is you - or even the fact that there is a “you”.
You see; this is how I started out here. After your dismissive and demeaning intellectual snobbery, I stopped taking you seriously (how’s the gut by the way).
And, of course I will defend my self against slurs like the one’s you type out. Actually. I’ll lower my defences here and tell you what is actually hurtful. Telling someone to go somewhere else. Twice.
But, neither here nor there. You can’t prove your inner voice is yours anymore than I can make you believe that I converse with an OverLord. If you’re so skeptical you should be able to see why that’s the case.
@rat spit
"You can’t prove your inner voice is yours anymore than I can make you believe that I converse with an OverLord."
I could step outside and take a poll of the next thousand people that I encounter. If I ask them if they believe they have an inner voice, I am sure most will agree. But my second question about the overlord will definitely provoke a response concerning sanity and fantasy.
@david
Fair enough. And I am certainly biased by an appeal to numbers - absolutely nothing unreasonable with that. However, the following questions:
“Do you believe that you are in control of your thoughts?”
“Do your thoughts keep you awake at night?”
“Do you find you self bothered by your thoughts?”
Are the type of questions that might suggest some other agency for our inner voice - even Freud’s Id would suffice for all my concerns!
The oddity is that people are compelled to identify with thoughts that are, to a large extent, deleterious to our everyday life. What compels us to believe in thoughts we cannot and do not control?
Altough directed @ David, I am also going to give you my answers. Short and sweet.
Yes, I am in control of MY thoughts.
No, but the PTSD nightmares can wake me.
No, I ain't bothered with me thoughts.
I don't know. Why do you allow them to control you?
rmfr
“Do you believe that you are in control of your thoughts?”
Definitely. Not 99% but 100%.
“Do your thoughts keep you awake at night?”
NO
“Do you find you self bothered by your thoughts?”
Not at all. I do not see monsters or overlords, I consider myself sane and grounded in reality.
@david
No impulsive thoughts?
Do you hear music in your mind and if so how do you account for it?
@david or arakish
Do you believe that your articulated thoughts are expressions of thought impulses?
And do you dream at night and if so are you in control of your dreams?
What are thoughts other than impulses that travel through the neurons?
Not all of my dreams are controllable, but most are. It is a practice known as Dream Lucidity. Basically, you realize you are dreaming, and if desired, you can control that dream. Some dreams are pleasant and I let them play out. Some dreams are foolish and I take control and steer them where I want.
The only dreams I cannot control are the nightmares caused by the PTSD I suffer. Those nightmares I just live through. Realize it was a nightmare, and go on from there. I do not particularly enjoy having them, but that is something that comes from PTSD.
rmfr
@ Arakish
Most times I am in control of my dreams, sometimes it is great to let them play out. As a writer I set my mind to the dilemma/plot/problem/block i had with the scene and by morning it was sorted, and mostly I had dreamt it.
What I did learn was that if I had some major funny dialogue in a dream..DO NOT WRITE IT DOWN...waking up happy as Larry as reading "FRDSFJHVGF,guehdquih....rachel" does not a good morning make...
I learnt dream control many years ago.
Old Man: "I learnt dream control many years ago."
Me too. I learned about it while in high school and still chasing tyrannosaurs out my back yard. Back then, I also used Dream Lucidity to do the "superman thing" as Link said in the Matrix about Neo. Had some damn cool dreams that way.
rmfr
I used to do that when I was a child as well. I learned That I could control my dreams, how weird is that. It must be more common than I had realised. .
I do play music on my mind. But I can control it, just like a real world audio device. I account for it because my brain is capable of memory, and I just replay what I heard in the past.
It is not like this ....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxoUmh2FCX4&t=7678s
"The superstition, Sheldon, is that your inner voice is you "
Jesus wept will you use a dictionary. Try defining what you mean by inner voice as that is your claim not mine. I don't claim to have an "inner voice" and wouldn't use such wish washy vapid phrasing. I have a brain that is capable of thought. Nothing remotely supernatural is required for this, thus it is not a superstitious belief by definition.
"After your dismissive and demeaning intellectual snobbery, I stopped taking you seriously "
Couldn't give a toss, you're posts are as inane as they are insane.
"And, of course I will defend my self against slurs like the one’s you type out."
What a pathetic and dishonest excuse for your relentless personal insults, when your posts inevitably are derided for the vapid inane bilge they are you resorted to immediate and relentless personal insults. At least accept responsibility for your behaviour, and recognise the difference between deriding the content of someone's posts, and you resorting to puerile personal attacks.
"what is actually hurtful. Telling someone to go somewhere else. Twice."
Except this is a lie. You said you were leaving. Prior to that you had singled me out me out to say you'd not respond to my questions, and then called me a "prick". You either have a very poor memory or are being utterly dishonest. This is a debate forum, if you want to preach or sermonise go find a pulpit, if you find that hurtful then tough cheddar, I detest it when arrogant theists rant sententious sermons at me as you have done relentlessly from the start.
"You can’t prove your inner voice is yours anymore than I can make you believe that I converse with an OverLord. "
A false dichotomy fallacy. I exist as an objective fact, until you accept that you can offer no rational discourse. Your belief in an "overlord and under lord" is an inane and vapid superstition, that you have failed to offer any tangible objective evidence for. You have not even attempted to define what you mean by inner voice or overlord or under-lord, it's fucking comical nonsense.
" If you’re so skeptical you should be able to see why that’s the case."
Why would scepticism prompt me to believe your unevidenced superstitious belief is in any way justifiable? You have used a common logical fallacy called argumentum ad ignorantiam claiming it can't be disproved, but haven't offered anything remotely tangible to define what they are, or offered a shred of objective evidence for them.
Here is a list of common logical fallacies, with definitions so you can see when they apply. I suggest you try to understand what these are and what they mean when they are used in any argument or claim, or when a belief is based on them.
http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/ENGL1311/fallacies.htm
rat spit: "So naive. And he calls me self obsessed. You are the quintessential narcissist, Sheldon. Your weak ego hides behind a conflagration of vocabulary and some basic knowledge of how to argue philosophically. Based on your comment that your wife calls your penis small, I really have to wonder what you’re self esteem is like beyond the protection of a screen and a keyboard. I’ve always found that those who lash out the hardest on the internet have the lowest self esteem irl."
Not true. Those who tend to lash out the hardest also tend to have a damned good reason to do so.
And you have the gall of accusing Sheldon of ad hominem when you were the first do so? And done so not just against Sheldon? Hmm...
rmfr
@ rat spit
And what is said of those who accuse others of having a small penis?
rmfr
His obsession on that subject is quite any eye opener, especially his lie about my wife, that he took from a joke I made myself.
How many times have we seen theists lash out angrily like this when their superstitious spiel is rejected. Let him express himself, it's pretty funny anyway, especially his obsession over penis size, each time he does it, it becomes more of an own goal. His posts suggest a teenage boy if I'm honest.
Why do so many theists get so angry when their superstitions are rejected on here? I mean it is a predominantly an atheist forum after all, you''d think they'd be prepared for rejection. I don't think most of them have had much experience of atheists at all.
@ Sheldon
And from my experience living with those Baptist Bible Belter freaks I can attest to this theist "obessessions." The one that makes me laugh the hardest is the "Christianity is not obssessed with sex" argument. That one always makes me laugh so hard I end up having to call 911.
Yeah, teenage boy has been my accessment as well.
Simple answer is that their numbers are falling as rapidly as the numbers of "Nones" are rising. I remember telling my wife when the WWW was only about two years old that the WWW (Internet as most call it) would spell the doom of religion.
Just look at YouTube as it has matured. It had many more "atheist" channels than religious in its beginning. As Seth Andrew spoke about in his video Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas. Religions have been catching up with the atheists ever since.
Religion is spiralling around the drain of the toilet. They know it. They have no rational and logical methods. Thus, the only alternative they have is violence. In fact, it has always been the only thing religions have: Violence or the threat of eternal damnation.
rmfr
You are absurdly unaware of your insulting approach to discussions here. Don’t try to pin the blame on me. I’m not lashing out at your arguments. That’s quite clear. I’m lashing out at your dismissive, intellectual snobbery.
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