I Am Deceived, Therefore I Think
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"I apologize. I will reply to everyone (except Sheldon) in due time."
No tangible answers it seems, it was ever thus. A bit cowardly to tuck tail and run from questions you don't like though.
Its not the inner voice in my head that concerns me...its all those others voices, they're sick.
@Grinseed Re: "...its all those others voices, they're sick."
Hey, Grin, you should do what I did. Install a "mute" button for those little bastards. As sick as they are, they CAN be a bit amusing to listen to now and then. However, once they start getting too rowdy, I just hit the "mute" button and put them in time-out for a little while. *chuckle*
One of my inner voices keeps telling me to care for others less well off than myself, but I distract it by burning things.
@Tin, I already had a "reverse" button installed to run those voices backward...then all I hear is 'on your knees pagan, worship the stannic one'...who would that be?
@Grinseed Re: "I already had a "reverse" button installed to run those voices backward."
Heeeeey..... THERE'S an idea I never considered! That could be pretty cool! Although, thinking about it, considering how vile and crude MY little voices sound sometimes, if I were to play them in reverse I might end up hearing church hymnal songs. lol
The inner voice is called a conscience. Its related to your spirit and encourages you to please god.
@ Joshua Pryce
"Its related to your spirit and encourages you to please god."
Proof. Evidence. Else Hitchens's Razor followed by Arakish's Razor.
OH FUCK Not again.
"Inner voice is conscious and it's related to spirit."
Please prove any of this shit!
"Spirit encourages you to please god?"
Sorry all you idiot atheists out there, you don't believe in God you just don't have spirits. Isn't that obvious?
In front or in back?
"The inner voice is called a conscience. Its related to your spirit and encourages you to please god."
No it's not - Hitchens's razor applied.
Well, I'll never understand why everyone is always so dismissive or defensive against questions.
My thoughts on the question is that you can perhaps show the voice in your head isn't always yours. Using imagery as an analogy, you can ask a person to look at a blank sheet of paper and imagine a banana on it. But as they're doing this you slowly project an image of a real banana. The interesting thing is the person continues to think they are imagining it, but if you ask them questions about the orientation or number of bananas, their answer will match the displayed image.
In auditory terms, it's like thinking the voice in your head is yours, when they are external. Schizophrenia has the opposite problem, thinking the voices in your head are external, when they are not.
OH FUCK Not again.
Bananas on plates and inner voices? I need some LSD too!
Reference:: Perky C. (1910). An experimental study of imagination. Am. J. Psychol. 21, 422–452
Am. J. Psychol.
An experimental study of imagination. Am I psycho!
Maybe I am just perky C cup! At least by 1910 standards.
While the above is humorous, the above is an example of human brains getting "suggested" into patterns.
I am dismissive of questions that has an agenda to try and support an invisible sky fairy concept that is completely illogical and is without any evidence.
Also how do you "slowly" project an image of a banana on a blank sheet of paper and not have the person realize exactly what is happening? Who were the test subjects that did not notice an image on blank piece of paper appear when they were staring right at it looking for a banana.
Project a green banana bushel that is pointed upside down (opposite of gravity) and that person does not notice this is contrary to the banana image they probably had in their head? What about if it is 1000's of bananas, all tiny and almost unrecognizable as a banana at all. Could the image actually be of cucumbers but they will describe it as a banana because they were primed to think bananas?
But yes on the other hand priming the human brain and asking questions about it as it crosses into "detectable" range by our senses is definitely a thing. Watching a few shows on the art of the magic trick, distraction and psychology of the human brain and how easily it is tricked with sensory input and sure, a well done trick will absolutely fool the person or lead a person down a certain "suggestion" path. Just like how the paint color and lighting in a room can affect our moods even if we are not aware of it.
The experiment sounds so faulty and prone to error it is hard to believe anyone would take such results seriously and try to draw "what is self" conclusions from it.
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"Who were the test subjects that did not notice an image on blank piece of paper appear when they were staring right at it looking for a banana."
I gave you the reference for a reason. The entirety of scientific knowledge is available to you online. Not only can you find this study to see how it was done, you can look for any other study that has followed up on it. For example Segal (1972) presented a tomato while asking participants to imagine new york; what ended up happening was that they imagined it at sunset.
So you read it, shared what you read here, I come up with a critique and you just say: "go look it up online" and get back to me. How come you cannot simply answer my question? Is it complicated and long winded? If so why is that?
You're not criticizing my application of that study to this thread's question, instead you're criticizing the procedures of the actually study itself without knowing much about it.
What more can I say beyond go read it first, then criticize it; not the other way around.
Nice dodge as always.
What did I dodge? I don't think you even know.
I know. You don't.
What is with you signing your posts with my initials?
ʝօɦn 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐy "Well, I'll never understand why everyone is always so dismissive or defensive against questions."
Oh mama, I think I just injured myself laughing.
Does this mean you are finally going to answer all the questions you have shamelessly dodged?
Are you a YEC John?
How old do you believe the earth, and the universe to be?
Do you deny any scientific facts, other than species evolution, that don't in any way contradict any part of your religious beliefs?
I’m done here. The Evil One and I have tried to expose “you” all for what you are - a compelling act of relentless deceit in the form of thought.
I will be happy to pop up here and there, where I see fit - to remind you as always; the OverLord is not pleased with you.
Yes, your penchant for sententious preaching has been noted, just as your aversion to objective evidence has. It's not nearly as impressive as you seem to think, but you're hardly alone in arrogantly insisting you have discovered some hidden esoteric truth, which is somehow exempt from the rules of evidence you apply to all other ideas.
Don't bother popping back, I think we have a pretty good handle on your verbiage by now.
You’re a prick.
But, you know. Even those with small penis autism syndrome need love too. So; Sheldon - I love you, from the bottom of my heart. I pray one day you’ll finally get laid.
Perhaps the same will be reciprocated for you?
Is it too soon to tell him that I like him more than a friend?
@Rat Spit Re: "Is it too soon to tell him that I like him more than a friend?"
Personal opinion here, man, but I think you should save yourself the heartache. These long-distance internet relationships rarely work out. I would hate to see you get your heart broken.
I need to be finessed, chocolates, fine wine, maybe some nice music. If all I wanted was contemptuous jokes about my penis I could get those from the wife.
I need you to come over right now and apologise to Mr Cat who ended up wearing the mouse and the keyboard I was laughing so hard reading this....I nearly fell out me 'BattleBot' custom chair....and it is designed to prevent that!