Yes, I'm Jewish! I'm also an atheist (so no Orthodox mishegas with me, even though my dad drives me nuts with that stuff!) My aim? To challenge someone of belief. If you're so right, prove it.
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Rivka,
In the biblical fairy tale the Jews couldn't go five minutes without worshiping something. How did you manage to kick the addiction?
Loads of Jews are actually atheist. They identify as culturally Jewish but non-believing. It's not really a problem in the Jewish faith - or so it seems. I may be corrected here in a minute. I base this on my Jewish friendships during university life.
I think it’s a problem only in Orthodox Judaism, especially since many of them are very religious, and thus more likely than their Hasidic and Reform counterparts to be racist and/or homophobic.
True, I just never believed in it in the first place.
I grow up Reform, but never took much of it seriously.
Wait, aren’t most Reform Jews atheists? I might be wrong; I don’t really understand Judaism nearly as well as I do the other two Abrahmic faiths (which I often criticize)
DAN? DAAAAAANNNNNNN! RAT SPIT! RAAAAAT SPIIIIIIIT? HE GUYS.... COME ON OUT..... ALISE....... AAAAAALLLLIIIISSSSSEEEE. THIS GUY IS BEGGING TO TALK TO YOU GUYS....... BREEEEEEZZZYYYYYY....... COME ON GUYS, THE LINE HAS BEEN DRAWN IN THE SAND!!! BILLY BOY - HEY BILLLLLY!!
Those are fighting words. Tin Man, Old Man, Sheldon, Arakish, and the rest, break out the popcorn - Tin Man, we are gonna need another batch of Egg-nog. Sit down at your computer screens and fasten your seat belts so your head does not hit the floor when you can not longer contain your laughter. THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT!!!!
When I weighed in on his recent “challenge” to prove that my train of thought is really me, I laughed so hard that my eggnog went out of my nose! However, it eventually became so boring and pointless that I quit the argument.
Popcorn ready!
Hey, Meep! Care for some eggnog? My own special brew. You might want to wear a helmet while drinking it, though. Just a little precaution.
And, uh, Cog.... Our dear little Billy is no longer with us, remember? He got tossed out back into the Netherworld. You really need to let him go, Cog. You can't keep holding on to him like this. It isn't healthy. I miss him, too, but there is nothing I can do to bring him back. It's okay, buddy. It's okay to let him go.
Who’s Billy? And how did he “get tossed back into the netherworld”? Just curious.
Okay. Here I am. So, Rivka. I literally hear the voice of a Being who I call the OverLord. He is like the Biblical God figure in some ways - and in other ways not. Tell me why I should believe you when you say there is no God - and I am literally conversing with a Being whom I know to be much much much more powerful and intelligent than my self.
Or if you like; frame your argument against me any way you like. Remember; I am appealing to the exact same methodology you are used to referring to in order to justify your own personal existence - ie. inner thought.
Whippin' up another batch of "high octane" eggnog as we speak! And I must say that I am very proud of Rat Spit for stepping up to be first at bat! That's my boy! By the way, Rat, care for some eggnog? Drink enough and it could keep The OverLord quiet for a bit.
@Rivka
Welcome, young lady! Lovely having you with us. Your pic really brightens up the room... *smile*... Hope you got your good boxing gloves on, because this a great place to do some sparring. Can't wait to see what fancy footwork you've got. Oh, and feel free to help yourself to some popcorn and eggnog. But..... ummmm.... just as a precaution, you might want to limit yourself on the eggnog until you develop a "tolerance" to it. Just a friendly word of advice. Have fun. We are here if you need us.
OK, I'm here, but only for eggnog. The last batch was awesome Tin-Man so I expect nothing less!
..*sitting down in the first row on the balcony*... I have an excellent view of the arena.
Let the games begin!!
Hey, everybody! The eggnog is in that fifty five gallon drum over by the end of the table. Help yourselves! Oh, and for the sake of convenience I cut several 20 foot pieces of garden hose. Just grab a hose and stick one end in the drum and take the other end with you back to your seat. Should save a whole bunch of that annoying refill-the-cup time. Fair warning, though, I better not see any smelly bubbles coming up from the drum... *cutting eyes over at Cog*....
Thanks! I LOVE eggnog!
@Rivka
...*standing up from barrel*.... *eggnog covering head, face and shoulders*... *gripping top edge of barrel to maintain balance*.... Hey! Yer bache!... *goofy grin*... Thatch's schwell! Ratsbit... Rass Pitch... Rasp Itch... *deep breath*.... *burp*... Uh, wuts-is-name ess hare-ta assept yer chellenge... *hiccup*... Go git 'em, gurl!.... *plops head back into eggnog barrel*....
You’re having a conversation with this... “OverLord”? And from what I gathered in your recent “challenge”, you think that every last one of our thoughts are actually him pulling the strings? Okaaay... Just out of curiosity, what is the name of this faith/cult/whatever of yours? And also, how exactly do you think you’re conversing with him? I would like to at least know the specifics of what exactly it is that you believe. Only then will we be able to tell you why we don’t agree with you.
Uhhh... Rat? More than a week has passed, and my eggnog has gone cold. I’m still awaiting a response. *sigh* Alright, fine then. I’ll start my own thread on this. Time to get some more eggnog... :/
Got my Orville Reddenbaker Movie Theatre Butter popcorn in the microwave...
rmfr
Choc bombs ready...I will keep them in the freezer until the fur stops flying.
Welcome Rivka. Great to have you on board.
Tin, may I have a shot of your eggnog? I'll pass on those brown sugar cubes though.
Hi Rivka!
Welcome. You might find it hard going to find any genuine theists in here, we have a few resident claimants in Breezy, Searching for Truth (SfT) and some lurkers but if you want a knock em down, drag em out debate you would be better off visiting any one of the christian or Moslem sites...that's where you find the real crazies.
That said, lovely to see you! Join in any time!
Oh hell! How did I forget SFT. Someone tell him to get his butt in here. Tin Man pass me a cup of that Eggy stuff. Where's my popcorn!!! Let's get this show on the road. FIRST UP * RAT SPIT * Yeaaaaaaaaa! Who is going to keep score?
I’ve heard a believer say this to me: “If there is no god. Then who is the coordinator of all things.” Not a strong argument, but at least you have something to rebuttal.
Wow! If there’s no G-d? Does there need to be? It’s just our imagination telling us he has to exist, right? At least he might as well be sexy, lol!
The co-coordinator of all things are the laws of physics.
Welcome to AR Rivka! Hope the theist reply.
Looks like I win by default.
What the....???.... *looking around all confused*.... HEY! NOT FAIR!.... Where's all the blood and gore? I never heard any wailing and gnashing of teeth!... *hands on hips*... *shaking head disgustedly*.... Not a single hair of flying fur anywhere.... You mean to tell me I cancelled watching reruns of "Golden Girls" for THIS???.... *walking over to eggnog barrel*.... This is ridiculous. Somebody let me know when the carnage begins. Meanwhile, I need a drink.... *dunks head into eggnog*.....
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