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Calilasseia's picture
With all due respect

With all due respect

Which you're not showing by erecting a manifest lie, but do go on, as you doubtless will, tediously ...

Atheism is a positive belief.

Poppycock. I've already told you that it doesn't involve presenting assertions, which by fucking definition doesn't involve fucking "belief". Learn this elementary concept once and for all will you, and drop the typical supernaturalist display of discoursive duplicity.

Atheists do have a burden to support their worldview

Wrong, because atheism isn't a fucking "worldview". It's merely a refusal to accept uncritically unsupported supernaturalist assertions, in accordance with the proper rules of discourse understood to be in operation in every properly constituted rigorous academic discipline. Once again, fucking learn this once and for all, will you, and drop the duplicity.

just as do those who believe other worldviews.

And there's your fucking problem - you're incapable of imagining the idea of a view of the world that doesn't involve belief. The view in question being the scientific world view, which is based upon testing postulates to determine whether or not they are in accord with observational data. Those of us who paid attention in class understand the relevant distinctions. Now, if you want to argue against the scientific world view, which is what most of the people here who paid attention in class consider to be a genuine world view, then bring it on, but before you do, drop the bullshit you keep posting about "atheism". Which has nothing to do with "world views".

Just wondering if any atheist here is able to support their views

I just fucking have. Next?

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ AJ777

@ AJ777

I think your lies have just been masterfully and completely vapourised...Thanks Calli, I was about to be somewhat more earthy in my prose. You saved me from myself!

AJ777 will you please stop filling up these forums with your garbage? You get everything wrong, then try to redefine it to suit your warped and delusional views. If you must post get the basic definitions right.

arakish's picture
Calilasseia: "erecting a

Calilasseia, quoting AJ777: "erecting a manifest lie"

Would it also happen to vibrate?

rmfr

Tin-Man's picture
@AJ (Oh, by the way, any

@AJ (Oh, by the way, any chance that is short for "Ass Jewel"? Simply asking out of curiosity. I'm inquisitive like that.) Anyway...

Re: "Just wondering if any atheist here is able to support their views."

Absolutely! Happy to oblige you, my good man!... *beaming smile*... So, if I look out the windows on the front of my house, I have a lovely view of the pond. And if I look out the windows toward the back of my house, I have a view of the tree line stretching across our property. And I would be happy to post a couple of pics to support those views, if you like.... *grin*...

arakish's picture
Tin-Man: "Oh, by the way, any

Tin-Man: "Oh, by the way, any chance that is short for "Ass Jewel"? Simply asking out of curiosity. I'm inquisitive like that."

Pretty sure it probably means Asshole Junkie. (Ad quotum...)

rmfr

Cognostic's picture
AJ777 - What is a straw-man

AJ777 - What is a straw-man argument? With all due respect theism is complete bullshit with no facts or evidence supporting any of its assertions so why in the hell should we take one more and consider it any more useful than the rest. You are lying to yourself so you can hold onto your beliefs. When you write your idiotic thoughts down and share them, you sound like an idiot. How many times and how many people have to tell you that you are wrong. GO PICK ON THE SECULAR HUMANISTS who actually have a world view and most of whom are atheist. Atheism is a position on a single question, "Does god exist." Atheists see no reason to believe the proposition that god exists. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

Sheldon's picture
AJ777 "With all due respect,

AJ777 "With all due respect, Atheism is a positive belief. Atheists do have a burden to support their worldview just as do those who believe other worldviews."

Atheism
Noun
The lack or absence of belief in a deity or deities.

Go troll somewhere else please, if you don't want honest debate. Atheism is not a belief, it is not a worldview, and it is not nor does it make any claims. It's right there in the definition for an honest literate person to see.

"Just wondering if any atheist here is able to support their views."

Fine, my view as far as your ridiculous deity is concerned is that I don't believe it is anymore real than all the other asinine deities humans have created because no one can demonstrate any objective evidence to support the belief. Which part of that is unsupported?

Or are you going to repeat your argument from ignorance fallacy in the thread OP?

Now your turn, what objective evidence can you demonstrate for your belief a deity exists?

arakish's picture
AJ777: "With all due respect,

AJ777: "With all due respect, Atheism is a positive belief. Atheists do have a burden to support their worldview just as do those who believe other worldviews. Just wondering if any atheist here is able to support their views."

My turn to take a lawnmower to this risible, asinine, cretinous, and absurd collection of idiotic and retarded moronic syntactical assemblage of words.

"With all due respect, Atheism is a positive belief."

ATHEISM IS NOT A BELIEF! Why can't you get that through your duranium reinforced with self-sealing stembolts skull of yours. Why must you continue acting to be so stupid? Atheism is simply a viewpoint of the question, "Does a deity exist?" And the official atheist stand (mine at least is) on the answer to this question is:

I refuse to accept your preposterous claims for the existence of any deity.

Nowhere in that "official stance" does it have anything to do with belief.

Quit acting so fucking stupid when you ALREADY know the answer.

"Atheists do have a burden to support their worldview just as do those who believe other worldviews."

ATHEISM IS NOT A WORLD VIEW!! Again, you have been told this at least 1,000,001 times. Quit acting like you have not been told this.

Yes, atheists have "world views;" however, atheism itslef IS NOT A WORLD VIEW!

Please, if you do have a short-term memory malfunction, then I completely understand. I truly do. I have a friend back in Wilmington, NC who is constantly contacting me through Email because he constantly forgets how long it has been since he heard from me. How do I handle this? As if he is correct and I ain't contacted him in like a 100 years. I do remind to print my email so he can remember. However, he also forgets before he can do it.

However, print this informatiom out for later referral if you must. If you have a short-term memory malfunction, then I completely understand. Truly I do.

"Just wondering if any atheist here is able to support their views."

Here is my view from my front porch. (attached image)

rmfr

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arakish's picture
@ AJ777

@ AJ777

How can atheism account for the existence of the universe?

Simple. It exists.

Or, on the atheistic view, where did the universe come from?

I sitting out on me back deck on night looking at the blank sky, thought, "It would be nice if there was more."

BOOM! It popped into existence.

Now bow before your Umaäxalis and Athanorama.

rmfr

AJ777's picture
Killens, at the least your

Killens, at the least your worldview starts with the idea that you don’t have a worldview.

David Killens's picture
@AJ777

@AJ777

"Killens, at the least your worldview starts with the idea that you don’t have a worldview."

No. Atheists do not share the same worldview. I have a worldview.

arakish's picture
@ David

Dupe post. Server screwed up again.

arakish's picture
@ David

@ David

Can anyone be that thick? Evidently, huh?

rmfr

David Killens's picture
I have seen this same tactic

I have seen this same tactic before. AJ777 intends to wear people down by repetitively posting the same crap, and this will go on for many pages. That is why I am not going to get drawn into cosmology, and keep my posts short.

arakish's picture
Same with mine. Same with

Same with mine. Same with mine.

rmfr

Sheldon's picture
@AJ777

@AJ777

Atheists do have worldviews. These worldviews must necessarily be atheistic.

ATHEISM HOWEVER IS NOT A WORLD VIEW.

It's not a difficult premise. Try all thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs.

Diotrephes's picture
AJ777,

delete

Pirate Jack's picture
It’s possible that god raped

It’s possible that god raped Mary. Showed her his holy cock, then forced it upon her,

AJ777's picture
Diatrophes, do you believe

Diatrophes, do you believe that something can come from nothing.

David Killens's picture
@AJ777

@AJ777

"Diatrophes, do you believe that something can come from nothing."

Please define "nothing" and provide an example.

Diotrephes's picture
AJ777,

delete

Sheldon's picture
AJ777 "do you believe that

AJ777 "do you believe that something can come from nothing"

Do you believe something can always exist, even outside of time and space as we now observe it?

You can demonstrate no evidence a deity exists, but we know the universe exists as an objective fact, thus the idea a universe *MIGHT HAVE* existed in some form prior to the big bang involves one less unevidenced assumption than your superstitious belief in an eternal deity. Two less unevidenced assumptions in fact, since you're also assuming a completely unevidenced (with no explanatory powers) supernatural rather than natural cause, and we know natural causes are at least possible. We have no objective evidence supernatural causes are.

Ever hear of Occam's razor?

Nyarlathotep's picture
AJ777 - ...do you believe

AJ777 - ...do you believe that something can come from nothing

I haven't ruled it out.

Sheldon's picture
"I haven't ruled it out."

Nyarlathotep "I haven't ruled it out."

He won't grasp the significance of that statement. I'd bet a month's wages he won't.

Nyarlathotep's picture
@Sheldon

@Sheldon
Yeah, you're probably right.

arakish's picture
AJ777 "Do you believe that

AJ777 "Do you believe that something can come from nothing?"

The possibility does exist.

rmfr

Tin-Man's picture
Re: OP

Re: OP

Aw, c'mon! Really??? Again??? I thought we had already covered this a gazillion times already.... *throwing hands up in exasperation*... Oh, okay! Fine! I'll answer this for you one more time!...

My heart and a funny tingling sensation deep in my groin tells me it was the Ginormous Invisible Blue Universe-Creating Bunny that made the universe in all its majestic glory. Sure, there may be others who disagree with that, but it is only because they do not TRULY BELIEVE. Because nobody can ever really KNOW the GIBUCB is real until they fully BELIEVE it is real. Other than that, I have absolitely no idea from whence came our universe. For all I know, Cog could have shit it out of his ass after a particularly severe over-indulgance during a Taco Tuesday.... *shrugging shoulders*...

(Alrighty, now to go read other responses.)

arakish's picture
Tin-Man: "I thought we had

Tin-Man: "I thought we had already covered this a gazillion times already."

Evidently not. Must have been a gazillion minus 1.

rmfr

Pirate Jack's picture
Does anyone want some

Does anyone want some chocolate milk?

Tin-Man's picture
@Pirate Jack Re: "Does

@Pirate Jack Re: "Does anyone want some chocolate milk?"

LMAO... Oh, you sick fuck!... *laughing even harder now*... But... *gasping*... sure... *trying to catch breath*... I'll have... *deeeep breath*... a-cup-if-you-don't-mind... *falling to floor in fetal position*... Ow... *hyperventilating*... Just-leave-it... *cough-cough-snortle*... on-the-table... *deeeep breath*... untilthislaughingfitpasses..... Bwaaaa-haaaa-haaaa...!

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