What is the best atheists' argument against God existing?

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Brad Jones's picture
Dr. Richard Gallagher

Dr. Richard Gallagher
There is an article on CNN. was a skeptic, now the church uses him to help distinguish between possession and mental illness.
I believe possession is real, there’s plenty evidence of that

Nyarlathotep's picture
Brad - I’m not a lunatic

Brad - I’m not a lunatic

V.S.

Brad - I believe possession is real

It seems you might be!

Sheldon's picture
"I believe possession is real

"I believe possession is real, there’s plenty evidence of that"

Could you demonstrate some objective evidence for it? As this is just another of your scatter gun claims to be honest. Theists often do this in the hope they'll have moved on before anyone notices, I've noticed and your claims are not evidence, even the claims that you know there is evidence are not evidence.

Brad Jones's picture
I know people that have

I know people that have experienced it first hand

Nyarlathotep's picture
Brad - I know people that

Brad - I know people that have experienced it first hand

I know someone who thinks they are the reincarnation of Martin Luther King Jr. The difference is I don't believe it.

Sushisnake's picture
@Nyar

@Nyar
If he can really get into character, he might come in useful to lead the peaceful revolution for equality. I won't tell if you don't.

Sheldon's picture
"

"
I know people that have
I know people that have experienced it first hand"

No you don't, you may know people who have made that claim though. Again Hitchens's razor applies.

Brad Jones's picture
Yea and when people are

Yea and when people are possessed they speak in different languages
Speak of hidden truths
Of course they could come up with a reincarnation story

Nyarlathotep's picture
Again Brad. Why is it that

Again Brad. Why is it that you are skeptical of the supernatural claims of other religions, but not your own?

Sheldon's picture
"Yea and when people are

"Yea and when people are possessed they speak in different languages Speak of hidden truths"

No they don't, and no they don't, see claims are easy to make. Hitchens's razor applies, "what can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

Brad Jones's picture
Did you know that Martin

Did you know that Martin Luther king jr changed his name because he was influenced by Martin Luther, the Christian professor from the 15th century?

Sheldon's picture
"Did you know that Martin

"Did you know that Martin Luther king jr changed his name because he was influenced by Martin Luther, the Christian professor from the 15th century?"

I still don't, EVIDENCE????

Nyarlathotep's picture
Brad - Did you know that

Brad - Did you know that Martin Luther king jr changed his name...

Another false statement. Martian Luther King Jr. did not change his name.

Brad Jones's picture
Him and his father were both

Him and his father were both named Michael king, his father changed both of their names.

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Nyarlathotep's picture
Brad - Him and his father

Brad - Him and his father were both named Michael king, his father changed both of their names.

V.S.

Brad - Did you know that Martin Luther king jr changed his name

Brad Jones's picture
@quasi

@quasi
Sin is a consequence of free will
Without free will we would be robots
Unable to love or to hate
There is a certain kind of attainable love you can achieve by having the free will to love someone.
It works the other way around as well
Our reality is good and evil
I can’t rap my head around what you guys are saying, that our lives are meaningless and without purpose.
What about all the near death experiences? People’s story’s matching up, from all over the world

mickron88's picture
"Sin is a consequence of free

"Sin is a consequence of free will"

how can you have free will if the god that gave you rules already know what will happen?
did you get my point? of course not..you're delusional

if you're god and you've created a thing that you know has flaw and you know already what he will do in the future is really futile to have free will with it...

and please don't be russian tank here...don't give me that NDE at me..
you're asserting something with out any fucking proof...

you're boring..everything you're saying is all answered bruh...
look around from the past post here before saying these bullshits...

Sheldon's picture
Did you choose to have free

Did you choose to have free will?

No one here has ever claimed our lives ate meaningless, why do people who claim loudly to be Christians lie so shamelessly?

If our lives have a predetermined purpose how can we have 'free will? You can't have it both ways. I give my life meaning. Nothing supernatural has ever been objectively evidenced, and despite multiple requests you have not offered a shred of objective evidence that your deity is any more real than Zeus or Thor.

LogicFTW's picture
@Brad

@Brad

"I can’t rap my head around what you guys are saying, that our lives are meaningless and without purpose."

Ah some real honesty.

I fully understand that, even I have difficulty wrapping my head around that. Although I would guess to say that is not really what I or others are trying to say precisely, more that there is no "god" that tells us what our life's purpose and meaning is, because the evidence overwhelmingly says there is no god. That instead we need to find our own meaning and purpose, I know, it is scary, uncomfortable to take full responsibility for oneself, but it is also very freeing and liberating when you realize you are in control of your own destiny, not some invisible man in the sky people tell you about with no evidence that is the ultimate arbitrator of meaning and purpose in your life.

Near death experiences, "NDE's" has been discussed on these boards before extensively, if you are interested in that topic I am sure myself and others will likely be happy to reiterate all the major issues and inconsistencies with NDE's.

algebe's picture
@Brad: I can’t rap my head

@Brad: I can’t rap my head around what you guys are saying, that our lives are meaningless and without purpose.

I don't know who said that. I certainly don't think that my life is meaningless and without purpose. And I can't wrap my head around why people need an imaginary sky-fairy to give meaning and purpose to their lives. That's a bit sad really.

P.S. Don't rap your head too much or you'll get concussion.

Sheldon's picture
No one said their life was

No one said their life was meaningless. Brad made it up to troll....

Brad Jones's picture
Oh come on nyarlathotep!

Oh come on nyarlathotep!
I messed up the words, but it’s the truth eh?

Nyarlathotep's picture
Your notion that a 5 year old

Your notion that a 5 year old was so impressed with Martian Luther that they changed their name; is less ridiculous than your notion that Iron age mythology is true; and far less ridiculous than your notion that demons are real.

Brad Jones's picture
https://www.google.com/amp/s

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/04/health/exorcism-...
Here’s some evidence from a credible source!
CNN

Nyarlathotep's picture
Still waiting for something

Still waiting for something peer reviewed. If you believe headlines in headline news; I got a bridge on the moon I'm willing to sell cheap!

Sushisnake's picture
@Brad

@Brad

Death Spiral: Along With Its Credibility, CNN Ratings Collapse
https://www.dailywire.com/news/18088/death-spiral-along-its-credibility-...

Edit to add question: Still waiting for your answer about witches, Brad.

Sheldon's picture
It's evidence that gullible

It's evidence that gullible superstitious people believe that nonsense. It's not remotely objective evidence that demons are real .

Sheldon's picture
From the "story" you linked..

From the "story" you linked...

"Some critics, though, say Gallagher has become possessed by his own delusions. They say all he's witnessed are cheap parlor tricks by people who might need therapy but certainly not exorcism. And, they argue, there's no empirical evidence that proves possession is real."

So no real evidence at all then as I pointed out. Will you have the integrity to even acknowledge this? The guy in the story isn't being scientific at all as he has no empirical evidence he can demonstrate or get peer reviewed. His claims are sensationalist nonsense.

LogicFTW's picture
@Brad

@Brad

I do not envy you if you think demons are real, that is a scary world and thought, bound by no rules, how do you know you are not alone in the world and every single person you ever met including your own parents is "possessed" by a demon and we are all just here to trick and torment you?

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