Why do we have the making love experience & how does it come about
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@Senta Re: "Not sure what a troll is."
*shrill referee whistle*..... *removes brown handkerchief from rear pocket and tosses to ground*.... Bullshit-flag on the play!.... *inserts right index finger into right nostril and rotates back and forth*.... Intentional ignorance!..... On the offense(ive)!.... Fifteen yard penalty!... Loss of down... *rotates right arm in large circle and blows whistle to resume play*....
Re: Senta - "What is it that you think I may be pretending?" (I originated this in another thread, but it seems quite appropriate here as well.)
I'm calling TROLL! Listen, I happen to be pretty damn good at playing dumb and being a difficult pain in the ass. Matter of fact, I have spent many years honing those skills. As a result, I'm pretty good at recognizing it when I see it being used by others. And, yes, we all know there are some truly brain-dead cretins out there who grace us with their presence from time to time. No doubt. However, "Miss" Senta here is not such a brain-dead moron as "she" is trying to portray. "Her" responses are far too calculated and controlled. "She" is answering and responding in much the same ways I would answer and respond to people if I were intentionally trying to annoy them. Spotted it early on, but was just wondering how long "she" would continue. Apparently, "she" is having an absolute blast, and - in all fairness - "she" is pretty good at it. Just sayin'.....
I am on twitter and facebook and there are pictures of me, and yes I am female and I have been upfront and honest.with you, even down to my real name. I am not trying to annoy anyone. According to the what I read on the board, this is a debate room. I am not surprised that you are mean and insulting to me and any other theist because I have debated with atheists for many years and you are all pretty rude and condescending. You also refuse to use any logic because you want to live in pretend world where you pretend to be apes and robots and plants and anything but what you actually are which is humans with a true love out there somewhere who is your other half and who needs your love. You would feel closer to God if you were with that person You can call me crazy or pretend you don't have a soulmate, but I am sharing what I know to be true in my heart and from my own experiences. If it helps even one person, it was worth it. The rest of you can live in denial forever if that is what makes you happy, but my intentions are pure and good. My methods are just sometimes unconventional. Here is Breaking Benjamin and Good night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWaB4PXCwFU
Senta: "humans with a true love out there somewhere who is your other half and who needs your love. You would feel closer to God if you were with that person You can call me crazy or pretend you don't have a soulmate, but I am sharing what I know to be true in my heart and from my own experiences."
Been there. Done that.
Read these essays.
And my SoulMate was just as atheist as I was/still am.
If being SoulMates is supposed to draw us closer to this non-existent Sky Faerie of yours, then how come it never happened?
@Senta Re: "I am on twitter and facebook and there are pictures of me, and yes I am female and I have been upfront and honest.with you, even down to my real name."
Oh. Ooooooooo-kay... Because NEVER in the history of the Internet, or all the social media sites it has spawned, has anybody EVER created a fake profile so that they could be complete assholes with impunity. Yeah... Silly me. What was I thinking?
What do you mean I did not create a fake profile here so I can be a complete asshole... Oh... wait...
***tree quickly shambles off***
My friends and family are on facebook with me. There are pictures of me and them. I can make some of them public if that would stop this idiocy.
Excepting you, who said it was idiocy?
I, for one, was being a completely serious ass... Oh... wait...
***tree again quickly shambles off to the forest***
No need to do that, I can vouch for a person on Facebook that has your name. But posting a link is not proof of identity.
"Quiet the mind and the soul will speak" Ma Jaya Sati Bhagavatil
Kudos, it had to be said, and indeed it should be said over and over again until she seeks help.
Breezy's messing with psychology, though I suspect we might be sending a pyromaniac to play with fireworks.
Sent a: “I talking about the experience itself. The during part. What is causing us to have such an amazing experience?”
Amazing experience? Well, that sure depends on how skilled one’s sexual partners are!
I don't think skill has anything to do with it. I think it has to do with the bond two soulmates have that allows them to reach the heights of ecstasy. But I am asking how that happens to us?
You do realize that other animals get pleasure from sex too, don’t you? And that some species mate for life, right?
Yes of course! I am just asking how those amazing feelings come to be? How are we experiencing them?
@ Senta Christine
It's all chemistry. When one is aroused their bodies release all kinds of chemicals, dopamine, norepinephrine and phenylethylamine. The more ... stimulated ... the person is, the more chemicals are released. That is why with some partners it's like masturbating, while with other partners the heavens opens up and thunder shakes your body.
Senta, you need to understand how the body works and chemistry. Did you know that the act of breastfeeding releases chemicals that bond mother and child? Oxytocin is also the hormone involved in social relationships, bonding, trust, and love.
All living things have two imperatives, to survive and procreate. That is a part of our basic genetic makeup. And those chemicals can raise the chances of procreation and thus, procreation.
Yes, exactly, so how do you think those chemicals came to be? And why don't they work sometimes? I mean if it were ony for reproductive purposes, then why is it that I am only attracted to certain men, and only really turned on by one man?
@Senta Christine: I don't think skill has anything to do with it. I think it has to do with the bond two soulmates have
You're wrong. If you're soulmates with someone, you try to learn what makes them feel good so that you can be a better lover for them. Unfortunately communication about sex can be a minefield, and I think most of us secretly hope that our lovers will somehow guess what we want and do it without prompting. Trial and error can work, but you need patience, kindness, forgiveness. People can get very emotional about sex (especially when they aren't getting what they need), and anger tends to leak out into other aspects of life.
I can't really relate to that. I have had effortless incredible love making experiences with my other half/soulmate. Only other people have been unsatisfactory.
Senta: "I don't think skill has anything to do with it."
I think you are completely wrong. The way my wife described the way I did things to her (and I reciprocated) only improved my skill pleasuring her.
And speaking of Big Bang Theories... Have any of you seen this? Coolest thing any atheist ever shared with me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Om5TNJVmE
Ain't watched it. Ain't gonna watch it. I am through watching the bullshit Religious Absolutist propaganda videos you link to.
That one is a beautiful depiction of the Big Bang, and it is super cool and was given to me by an atheist so you are safe.lol
No I am not. No one is safe from anything pushed by a Religious Absolutist. Regardless of where it came from.
Intellectually human beings know that intercourse leads to childbirth, child raising, and worst of all, teenagers. Without the overwhelming drive to experience intercourse and the intense pleasure that it brings, we'd lose interest and go extinct. Asexual living is rapidly becoming the norm in Japan, and their population is now in decline.
Human beings have the capacity to go beyond basic needs and enhance our experience of living. We do this with food, wine, art, etc. We also do it with sex. Some people find ultimate pleasure in having sex with as many people as possible. Others prefer to develop a deeper, more intense relationship with just one person. Either way, we see sex as an end in itself, rather than just a means of reproduction
Right, yes so we luckily have a sex drive in order to keep the species alive. And why do have a sex drive? Just happens to be that way by luck again? Anyway, that was not really the question I was asking about the making love experience. I meant the actual experience itself. What is causing all that pleasure at the time we are experiencing it?
Concavity, convexity, nerve endings, hormones. Natural selection, not luck.
How'd you get to be an adult (assuming you are) reared by atheists, yet you think these basic things happen by luck or God?
You seem to be trying to force people into a response of "Wow, you're right! It feels good, so it must be God who caused it to be this way! We see the light!"
You seem to have reading comprehension issues. I know it didn't all happen by luck. Only atheists think it all happened by luck and then you just go and on about what happened after that. I already know what happened after that. You are avoiding the question and the point.
You wrote, "And why do have a sex drive? Just happens to be that way by luck again?" What exactly are you saying is luck for luck to happen "again?" Nothing happened by luck for it to happen again by luck.
You wrote, "Only atheists think it all happened by luck..." Um, no. Natural selection. Talk about reading comprehension issues...
I've answered your question. What is your point?
Again not what I am even talking about. To simplify. I think higher intelligence created us in such a way that we would evolve having a sex drive so we would find our mate, enjoy making love to them and procreate and keep the species alive. I can only assume that atheists think- Nothing created us in such a way that we would evolve having a sex drive.... yet we somehow mysteriously do have a sex drive,,,,,,,(and a will to live, and consciousness and emotions and eyesight and hearing and tasting and feeling etc etc etc).
You seem to avoid questions too, and you like to answer questions with questions.