God's Love.

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"Uh...Johan...your god is a liar. The global flood as described in his word the bible did not happen in physical reality."

To us that is not an issue. What is the issue is that evil destroy the earth. Seems it is very visible these days. So the "clever humans" never heeded the warning of Noah.

"And Jesus death...”an evil religion” set up by god himself...to “sacrifice” himself to himself for a rule he himself made. Hey!!!! Does make about as much sense as you!"

He sacrificed Himself so that i can have the benefit. I don't need to get angry, irritated etc. to fellow human beings anymore. i can just Love. Saved from evil spirits controlling the humans that do not believe. I Love Him as my Savior. And now I can be the Light in the darkness of evil feelings/spirits/emotions. They are conquered.

Mat. 5
43 ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

David Killens's picture
@ Johan

@ Johan

"I do not see the "asshole" in this."

Do you believe in the bible? Do you understand that when your god decided to flood this planet, it is estimated over twenty million human beings perished by drowning. Do you have any idea what it was like to see the waters rising, people going to the high ground, fighting to get into a tree, children and families drowning?

Johan's picture
You make an agreement with

You make an agreement with God to be your own God and you have to stand for it. No turning back. Humans would love to turn back but God warned them about themselves and they didn't heed the warning.

Gen. 2
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die

And everything they touch just die. Of their own doings. They had all the opportunity to stay away from greed. But they are still killing of the earth. Seems the next death of the earth will be even worse. The hole in the atmosphere is already there. Giving us an idea of how we are going to die.

But don't worry. Death should be something to look forward too. Your Real Life is waiting on the other side of the grave. Without the pain/disaster of physical life.


Whitefire13's picture
Johan, oh Johan....

Johan, oh Johan....
Again, a lie. Honestly?!??? This “ Gen. 2
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die”

Did they die in the day they ate? No, they did not AND god decided to add additional punishments (hmmm, no warning there of painful birth and sweat of brow). Hilarious!!!

What a dipshit, abusive, gaslighting father!

Johan's picture


"Did they die in the day they ate? No, they did not "

They did. They became dead humans. Only with a body. Having no Life of God. Having no Love, Joy, Peace etc. They have to seek it. And when they find it, it is short-lived. When we are born again from God we are born into Life again. Having Love, Joy, Peace etc as part of our Character. Like you have your intellect as part of yours only.

"AND god decided to add additional punishments (hmmm, no warning there of painful birth and sweat of brow). Hilarious!!!"

That is part of their death. The consequences. They had a perfect Eden. But they wanted to be gods themselves. Thus they had to leave and go and create their own lives. And you are still doing that. Missing your Eden. Creating your own from your "sweat". And for giving birth. I do it in Joy. Without any pain whatsoever.


"What a dipshit, abusive, gaslighting father!"

What a Lovely Father. Exchanging dead human life for His own Godly Life. Died to rescue me.

Whitefire13's picture
Is this more self-promotion ?

Is this more self-promotion ?!?!?! (I don’t click)

I’m glad it’s you only he’s “rescued”. If you are an example of gods rescuing...well, I don’t need to say anything further.

David Killens's picture
This is not remotely

This is not remotely connected to my post, which you are responding to.

Johan's picture
@David Killens

@David Killens

"This is not remotely connected to my post, which you are responding to."

No problem. Link me again.

David Killens's picture
@ Johan

@ Johan

PLease do not evade, just answer this question:

Do you have any idea what it was like to see the waters rising, people going to the high ground, fighting to get into a tree, children and families drowning?

Understand this: your god decided to do it.

Johan's picture
@David Killens

@David Killens

I think I answered with: "God has created live on planet earth with good and bad consequences.". So how is that "evading"

"Understand this: your god decided to do it."

Sure. But do you perhaps have a better idea?

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@ Johan

@ Johan

"Sure. But do you perhaps have a better idea?"

Anything but slowly murdering over twenty million people is a better idea. How about allowing everyone to survive?

Geesh, according to the bible, your god was supposed to very smart, yet it totally fucked up in creating man. So it took the easy way out, hitting the delete button. What a sadistic uncaring cold-blooded asshole your god is.

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I am so confused now..... "Fuck any city that will not receive my disciples or my message. I will totally fuck them up." "Don't talk to the fucking gentiles or Sumerians because I am a bigoted dick." "Believe in me or I'll fuck you up!"

I'm sorry. Where did you glean "Forgiveness" from the message of the Bible? Where did you ever get the idea that a magic man in the sky could forgive you for something you did to someone else. That has to be the stupidest idea in the history of mankind. I kill your wife, dog, and mother, but it is okay because God forgave me. You have an amazingly fucked up sense of morality.

Whitefire13's picture
Johan... welcome! Also, when

Johan... welcome! Also, when using English watch the capitals :) (Usually reserved for beginning a sentence, names)

“ The Deity.”

Was this an answer?

“ I believe in the One I met.”

Really?!?! Did you reallly “meet” it (shake hands, have a coffee or meal together)

“I am defining Him as my Father.”

Why? When you met him, did he say something about your mom? You don’t have to believe something unless someone provides evidence (like a DNA test).

“He taught me about His Love.”

Uh oh...I don’t like where this is going...(unless you consented and you’re an adult)

“Which I didn't have.”

And still don’t, it’s his. You have yours, he has his.

“So He actually created it in me. “

What?!?!? I don’t get it. I don’t understand what this even means...like, physically?!?! (Isn’t god resting now from creating stuff or is he back at it again?)

“And now I Love. “

Look, just because you didn’t have love and got some special treatment, doesn’t mean the rest of us don’t love.

“It is my guiding Principle in Life. ”

What does this even mean. Which principle? There are many “principles”... unless being new to English you meant “principal” (person who runs a school)

Johan's picture
Thanks for welcoming me. It

Thanks for welcoming me. It is a good feeling for starters. It usually happens like that when you met someone. But as the relationships move forward many tends to become the pieces of a precious porcelain cup on the hardness of the floor. So we have to go into the dynamics of a lasting "cup". I have such Relationships now already for 10 years with my "enemies". And I would like to share this with you. To actually uplift this porcelain cup to a diamond one that will break the floor if it falls.

The "Deity" did that for me in my Life. As my human created relationships were in pieces on the floor of religion and God Restored for me a Diamond cup that is breaking the floor where it falls. I call Him my Father because that is who He said He was in my Bible. And He proved Himself to be exactly that.

I know i didn't answer half of what you asked. But that is Love. To bear with my human weaknesses as I will bear with yours. We have an eternity together. I can not give that eternity in one post.

Whitefire13's picture
OMFG - I just realized, this

OMFG - I just realized, this is Satan speaking...

Quote “ We have an eternity together.”

Hell...this will be pure, fucking hell

Johan's picture
You are judging me now as the

You are judging me now as the "Satan"? Without evidence? Seems to me like an opinion only. Because for a real Judgment there should be a case. So this is an opinion clouded by an evil spirit. As they do tend to override normal intellect. Like you see in the world today the evil spirit of fear controlling governments in killing of their economies that humans need to exist.

As for Love ruling me i will enjoy it with you for ever. I have the ability to Love my enemies too. Got it from God. He just Love everyone. And when you get born of Him you get His Character too. So you will just have to accept your "hell" with me for ever. Of course you can always change to Love too. But Love does not force. It has to be accepted or rejected. I have chosen my heaven. With you in it too.

Whitefire13's picture
@Johan ... hey man, I had to

@Johan ... hey man, I had to take a “guess” (you haven’t answered which Deity) - could be Loki -

“...So this is an opinion clouded by an evil spirit. “

Actually, it is clouded in “humor”...

“...how I was restored in another Life. Without the use of my intellect or physical Abilities.”

Talk about “opinion” - however the “intellect” part I’m starting to believe!

“So you will just have to accept your "hell" with me for ever.”

I have. Have you? The grave awaits us all. Dead as doornails. Wormfood (or according to my instructions, ash) - HEY...I want to be spread out on “Ash Wednesday” (gotta add that clause now)
Ugh- hate to sound repetitive BUT any “evidence” (try some that meets some type of standard) for “life after death” let alone “being with you”...(Are YOu goD? -trying the whole “caps thingy)

Johan's picture
Sorry about not mentioning

Sorry about not mentioning the "deity". It should be obvious. When we look the marvel of His physical creation then He Himself should be a "marvel" too. There is obviously only One. Many religions knows that. Some just knows more. So I am growing with those that knows more. And they know that the Creator is Father. To give everything He is to us to be too. Exactly God as He is God. That is what a Father stands for.

So unlike "superman" keeping everything to himself to be worshiped as "superman". But of course it is because he is a creation of man that is by nature selfish and wants to be worshiped.

You don't need to worry about your death. It is only your body. Your soul can not die. It is going to the Spiritual heaven. And there you can decide again where you want to be. With God and Love and Joy and Peace and Happiness or without Him. Suffering with those that do not love but hate and fight and curse etc.

Hope you will make the right choice then. I would not want to look at you and shake my head and say: "I warned you"! And then call you to come to us and you refusing because of pride forcing you to choose your own "hell".

Whitefire13's picture
Ezekiel 14:9 “ slation

Ezekiel 14:9 “
“‘And if a prophet is deceived into giving a message, it is because I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet. I will lift my fist against such prophets and cut them off from the community of Israel.”. Ohhhh the “cutting off is DEATH”

And he does it in the “new” part too (you know, the one about 2000 yrs old)...

2 Thess 2:11 “ For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie”

That little bloodthirsty rascal god ... he’s sooooo funny, fucking with everyone like this.

Johan's picture


Sure. God is the Creator. Created Good and evil. Evil for those that want it and Good for those that wants that. Without a choice there is not Love but force.

God created the lie and gave it to you to believe. Because you want it. And you have the consequences too. Hatred where it could have been Love. And that is just God's Love to everyone. Giving them what they want. God Loves you. He has given you over to your thoughts and feelings for Him. Those that you wanted to have.

And God Loves me too. He gave me what i want. I have chosen the opposite. I have chosen Love and not hatred.

CyberLN's picture
Johan, you wrote, “Although i

Johan, you wrote, “Although i am not "with many" in our different views. Because most have thrown away the baby with its "bath water". I have not.”

Will you kindly demonstrate that there is/ever was a baby in the bath water?

Please look up the meaning of the word ‘demonstrate’ prior to attempting an answer. IMO, if you answer with anything other than, “No,I cannot,” what you do say will likely be met with disregard, derision, or both.

Minor edit for clarity...

Johan's picture
I think I demonstrated the

I think I demonstrated the "Baby" well enough in a previous post. And without going too deeply into that again I feel I want to wait a bit for your second post. Then i can built on what I said already.

CyberLN's picture
Johan, I’ll iterate, look up

Johan, I’ll iterate, look up the meaning of the word ‘demonstrate’.

Johan's picture
Ok. No problem.

Ok. No problem.

Learn to pronounce
verb: demonstrate; 3rd person present: demonstrates; past tense: demonstrated; past participle: demonstrated; gerund or present participle: demonstrating

give a practical exhibition and explanation of (how a machine, skill, or craft works or is performed).
"computerized design methods will be demonstrated"
give a demonstration of

show how something is done
show how something works
give an idea of
clearly show the existence or truth of (something) by giving proof or evidence.
"their shameful silence demonstrates their ineptitude"

Nyarlathotep's picture
People who randomly

People who randomly capitalize words scare me a little.

CyberLN's picture
Agreed, Nyar. He seems also

Agreed, Nyar. He seems also to struggle with sentence structure,

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Nyarlathotep's picture
Everyone makes grammar

Everyone makes grammar mistakes. We misspell words, use the wrong punctuation, etc. But these are just accidents.

But typically you have to go out of your way to miscapitalize something. It is an intentional error. People who intentionally make errors, make me nervous.

Johan's picture
This is not intentional

This is not intentional errors. It is to try and differentiate between physical and spiritual for better understanding of what I am trying to convey. And more important it is my way of giving my Love to God for what i am saying. This Love is not your normal human love in smalls. It is another Love created by God in me.

I started off in a religious household and used the capitals for God to show respect and fear of being punished. But in growing in my understanding of Him it turned into Love as the reason for writing some things in capitals. No reason for Love and actually witnessing it to be nervous about. I am sure you look to a lot of love in movies and don't get nervous.

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