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I totally agree with the "asshole". He spoke the Truth. As my whole physical Life existence was broken into a thousand pieces by religion using my physical relationships against me. So i hate the physical existence of human being life and built now on the Spiritual existence of God's Life. This mean I do not love my previous loved ones physical anymore but I Love them as my "enemies" Spiritual now.
@Johan... “He actually picked up the pieces of my life and gave me a Spiritual Life in the place of my physical one”
Actually, NO “He” didn’t, YOU did. You. Accept responsibility for your decisions. “Religion” did nothing to you but present something you “bought into” and did yourself. And, if you are eating, shitting, showering, walking and etc, etc, - you are still “living a physical life”.
Also you said “ I totally agree with the "asshole".
Did you read any of the scriptures Cog posted...there’s a whole book out there that he got them from that describes a “Deity”
So now back to question one ... WHICH DEITY do you claim is your father???! There’s a fuckin’ bazzillion out there floating around (as well as unicorns, that why OMS was so specific on the one he has in his garage. :)
Did you just go to “god is love” and trash the rest???
I didn't pick up any pieces of my physical life to built again. I have no physical Life. It is now 10 years that i have no wife, kids, family, friends, nation, possessions, work or money. i have only bodily life. Which defines humans existence is absent from my Life. But i have a Marriage, and Kids. And physically i am only helping others to get a better physical life without taking anything for myself.
I claim the Deity that is a True Father that gives His Life to His Kids in an actual birth from Him that makes them exactly the Same. Only this is real Father Love. There is only One. Found in the Bible of the Christians.
You are of course only giving your side of the story that you like. Because if you know about all these verses then you obviously know about the others too. And if you do then you are dishonest now. Seems your hatred to God has taken your intellect and making you act against good intellect to make you dishonest?
38 ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
All of these verses you produced are just consequences of evil. Human lives are riddled by evil spirits taking their minds and allowing them to act totally contrary to what good intellect say. God warned them. But they didn't listen. So evil take families and make them persecute their own family members. That is to be hated. Not the person. But the evil. Because in the end evil will destroy those busy with it. Just as God warned Cain and Cain didn't listen. And evil took his mind to act totally contrary to a good mind. And it destroyed him. He was on the run from then onward. While God wanted Him to conquer. But of course could not interfere.
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.*n4
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:*n5
5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.*n6*n7
8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
9 ¶And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother’s keeper?
10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.*n8
11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother’s blood from thy hand;
12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.*n9
14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
Thank you for the bible verses. But are you aware that it is just a book that had multiple unknown authors who composed this piece over an unknown number of years?
In other words, despite the fact this book is important to you, there is absolutely zero contemporary evidence to support the simple fact it is true. The bible carries as much weight in here as toilet paper.
We want rational, real-world, testable and provable examples.
He just doesn’t fuckin get it. These evil verses are from his book ...for fucks sake ...
Pick and choose ... toss
Pick and choose... toss
Pick and choose...toss
If I had “picked” his supporting scriptures he’d be babbling a whole ‘ other tune.
@Johan. .. your fingers are in your ears as you babble
Seriously, you need meds to help balance out your brain chemistry. It won’t change your thinking but fuck man, somethings wrong with your brain.
I was just giving the other side of the story on the verses in the Bible that someone misused to proof his point. I was not building on the verses but my Life as I am living it. Where it is witnessed by my community. And everybody is welcome to proof for himself that I am not lying about my Life that I Live.
NO!!! Bullshit alert!
I used your book. YOU did not like what your god said ...simple.
Pick and choose...tossss
Blame “me” for “knowing” those scriptures - ohhhh and better yet, accuse me of “misusing” them...
THEN brag about yourself... self promotional, arrogant, twit
I didn't choose. You chose.
I just gave the correct understanding. Because I am a God too. Born of Him. Where He became my Father and teaching me about His Live. So you looking from a human point of view and with the spirit of wanting to find fault will of course find it. But that will not satisfy me. Because I see your attempt and I see your motivation for you words.
This does not make me "self promotional". It makes me "God promotional".
But of course you like judging me as "self promotional" when it is actually you.
And you don't like the Truth. But I am not here to judge you without Hope. Because I have been the same as you. And God saved me from "self promotion". Because who and what I am is from Him. This makes me truly humble. And you full of pride in yourself. That is "self promotion".
And the fact that you never came back on that post mean you actually agree. Because you had nothing to say against it. You are threatening me with "self promotion" while you are actually doing it.
Johan...is your post a “run by fruiting?”
Nope. It is run by Love.
Johan: But what about looking for it in Spirituality?
Try looking for love in the real world with real people. Love in all its forms among human beings is a wonderful thing. Why complicate and cheapen it with myths about gods and ghosts? We don't need gods to supply love. It's inside all of us.
What do you mean by "spirituality"?
Spiritually is Godly. God exist in the Spiritual Realm. Not physical. So He takes us into His Realm. Where He exists. And He gives birth to us to exist there too. It is like going to live with fishes in another realm. You have to be born fish to be able to live there.
But of course it does involve physical human beings. So you can come and live with me there too. It is found in Love to each other. In the Family Life of God.
"Spiritually is Godly"
Please provide objective evidence of this please.
"God exist in the Spiritual Realm"
Please provide objective evidence of your gawd, and then the "spiritual realm".
"So He takes us into His Realm. Where He exists."
Please provide objective evidence that your god takes people into his realm...then objective evidence of how he does that.
"He gives birth to us to exist there too."
Yup you guessed it, please provide the objective evidence that we exist simultaneously here and are reborn in his realm at the same time.
"It is found in Love to each other"
Again, love is a factor of the human brain producing oxytocin and other neurochemicals/peptides in each brain...please provide objective evidence otherwise.
Objective evidence of something, provides proof of that something's existence in reality. Please provide it...otherwise believing in something without said evidence is either, at best, a failure in reason, or worse, delusional. On you words, I am forming a view of which one you are. So far you are leaning toward delusional.
...unless you have objective evidence of your gawds existence in reality. Again...Got any?
I exist in Reality without a physical life of a marriage and kids. But I have a Marriage and Kids. That is only Spiritual. I am the Wife of God giving birth to our Children as Jesus.
And raising them up in their New Lives as Jesus.
BTW, your links are hilarious...you truly fail as a human, and are truly delusional. As a professional, I would refer you to psychiatric help. You should seek help, because cheeseass is not behind your feelings and beliefs, your brain is...and its having a hard time differentiating reality from supernatural fantasy.
You have a lot of strong words. But no evidence. Give us a link that is "hilarious" and we can see for ourselves.
And then I am "ill" also. Well that is just the way human intellect has to judge Spiritual Life to make it feel good about its own lack of comprehending it. They did the same with God when He walked the earth.
19 ¶There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?
I am sure you see the same "division"?
You believe in something that has no evidence of existence in reality. Gods do not exist as they have no evidence, cheeseass never existed, because there is zero evidence, santa clause never existed because there is no evidence and the tooth fairy doesn't exist, because of the same reason. By definition, and function, you are delusional. Without objective evidence, things do not exist, there is no reason to believe them no matter how intricate the story is.
Here is an experiment to help you realize why objective evidence is integral for determining truth...
I am holding a diet coke in my hand while online now. Is or was this true?
BTW, I was christian until I learned about critical thinking...Hope you can make it to learn how to discover truths.
"You believe in something that has no evidence of existence in reality. "
You feel love and anger and you actions prove the existence. I Feel God and my actions prove the existence. There is just no difference. The heart of the problem here is the fact that you don't want Him in your life and thus never met Him. But not having met someone does not prove His nonexistence. Just His Love not to disturb you.
"BTW, I was christian until I learned about critical thinking...Hope you can make it to learn how to discover truths." Nope you were not a Christian. Because Christians means Christ. You were never Christ. You never died and you were never born again as Christ. You were only in a Christian religion that is a mind game. But you should have heard there somewhere that it is actually about a personal Relationship. And you never took it serious.
At this point, all I can say to you, is seek professional help. Good luck with your delusion, and when your reasoning ability fails completely, do not hurt or kill others, for it is your god delusion inside your own brain that is telling you what to do. Seek professional help.
Bang on the money, it's like the evil spirit is pinching my thoughts, and forcing you to type them.
I jest of course...but yes, you seem to have nailed it there.
"I jest of course...but yes, you seem to have nailed it there."
He should have helped you when he had the opportunity. But maybe he saw your attitude when somebody helps you and decided to look away.
"do not hurt or kill others, for it is your god delusion inside your own brain that is telling you what to do'
Delusion can not hurt and neither kill. Evil spirits do that. We turn the other cheek when we meet with them.
27 ¶But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
As you have witnessed already in this thread when evil spirits try to hurt me with slander and curses and threats and name-calling etc.
Seems this might either get worse or will force those in running away. As Adam and Eve did. To hide from me behind the bushes. Or even worse. Banning me with lies. Like you saw happened in the Skeptic forums and in Robertson. For coming to help you. As I did in Robertson in helping them with stopping their abuse to their children and others in not having Love and Wisdom by which the can rule properly.
As I have taught many. I don't need to run my forums the usual human ways. Threatening and banning to force others to obey the "boss" in fear.
No johan, that is delusional. I have evidenced that evil spirits do not exist, by showing you that your unevidenced assertion of so called spiritual god feelings, are no different than basic human brain function, and do not need a fictitious made up magic god delusion to exist in reality. Your concoction that these feelings are from a non-existent realm, where both your god and evil spirits exist simultaneously, is delusional and not real or the truth. Go seek professional help.
You personally are responsible for your actions on this forum that may get you banned.
As you can plainly see, there is no god on this forum at all...as we have already banned him.
Oh Fuck! Spiritual Realm MY ASS. Explaining one dipshit assertion with another dipshit assertion does not make a truth claim. Prove there is such a thing as a spiritual realm. Prove there is such a thing as a God.
Feeling is spiritual. You have them. They really do exist. Your actions define the spirit/feeling you experience. And my actions define me. I am not just experience a passing spirit/feeling. I am Living right inside of them. My whole Life is Spirit. I have a Spiritual Marriage and Spiritual Children as Result.
I am the Wife of God giving birth to our Children as Jesus.
And raising them up in their New Lives as Jesus.
"Spiritually is Godly."
My unicorn that lives in my garage poops rainbows.
"God exist in the Spiritual Realm. Not physical."
My Unicorn is invisible and cannot be seen until he allows you to touch him
"So He takes us into His Realm. Where He exists. And He gives birth to us to exist there too."
That is exactly what Eric my Unicorn does too. Amazing coincidence.
"It is like going to live with fishes in another realm. You have to be born fish to be able to live there."
It is like going to live with all the other Unicorns in another place. You have to be born (or reborn) a Unicorn (or a Wombat) to live there
"But of course it does involve physical human beings. So you can come and live with me there too."
You can indeed come and live there . It's in my garage on 35th Street.
See any similarities Johan?
What is "real" to you is utter delusion to other people. Without evidence all you offer is words that signify nothing.
Whereas Eric, the Rainbow Farting Unicorn That Lives In My Garage with Walter the Square Pooping Wombat are entirely real.
It does read like you have had a struggle with your faith and your sexuality, which has resulted in a severe, ongoing psychological episode.
I do hope you have consulted a Doctor about this time in your life and are under ongoing treatment and supervision.
(Edit to add (reborn))
"It's in my garage on 35th Street."
Is that a two unicorn garage?
Nah it's a wombat/Unicorn condo.
@Old man shouts...
Hey did you ever see a leprechaun? I think I saw one in the basement where I live...