how did the entire Universe come from nothing?

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quantummechanist's picture
Let me ask you this, do you

Let me ask you this, do you consider all theists intellectually inferior to you?

Cognostic's picture
Only the ones that prove it

Only the ones that prove it with their moronic assertions. When faith takes the place of intelligence there is a huge gap ones ability to use reason and logic. It's the moron of the gaps argument. In the empty space where logic and reason should be, you just insert "moron." It may be a fallacy but it really does explain everything.

arakish's picture
To be perfectly honest, and

To be perfectly honest, and this is going to hurt your feelings...

Most Religious Absolutists, such as yourself, are dumber than dirt and stupider than snot.

And about your hurt feelings, see this post: What I Believe.

rmfr

quantummechanist's picture
To be perfectly honest you

To be perfectly honest you didn't hurt my feelings.
You are palpably the most ignorant fool i have ever come across.
you believe something came from nothing, i mean come on that's the most retarded idea ever.
You will see what happens to you when you die only then will you know
you laugh now, mock jest and despise religion but when the time of death comes and you are in your grave and cremated you will say "oh my Lord let me return to Earth for a brief time so that i may do good". but it'll be too late then. you are the most arrogant retard i have ever come across, you are rude, pathetic stupid and dumb. Probably a very terrible person to be around. You only don't respond calmly because you hate yourself from inside. I bet nobody likes you in real life, just look at yourself. I have been really patient with you yet you keep on being rude. The time will come trust me, you will regret everything. Most other people in the forum are being polite and arguing in a civil way. It's people like you who nobody listens to, you waste of semen, heck your parents probably regret giving birth to you, and you know it. Don't act like you don't.

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Re: Quantum's rant at Arakish

Re: Quantum's rant at Arakish

Ooooo.... So ferocious! Listen to the lion roar, everybody!

https://youtu.be/-I55yxRneik

arakish's picture
quantum misapplication:

quantum misapplication:

To be perfectly honest you didn't hurt my feelings.
You are palpably the most ignorant fool i have ever come across.
you believe something came from nothing, i mean come on that's the most retarded idea ever.
You will see what happens to you when you die only then will you know
you laugh now, mock jest and despise religion but when the time of death comes and you are in your grave and cremated you will say "oh my Lord let me return to Earth for a brief time so that i may do good". but it'll be too late then. you are the most arrogant retard i have ever come across, you are rude, pathetic stupid and dumb. Probably a very terrible person to be around. You only don't respond calmly because you hate yourself from inside. I bet nobody likes you in real life, just look at yourself. I have been really patient with you yet you keep on being rude. The time will come trust me, you will regret everything. Most other people in the forum are being polite and arguing in a civil way. It's people like you who nobody listens to, you waste of semen, heck your parents probably regret giving birth to you, and you know it. Don't act like you don't.

Ooooh! I am so frightened by your kitty roar. Meow!

And I shall admit that I am the most ignorant fool you shall ever come across. However, since I proven to be more intelligent and knowledgeable than you are … What does that make you?

qm: "you believe something came from nothing, i mean come on that's the most retarded idea ever."

And you are a LIAR! Show me specifically where I have ever posted that I believe "something came from nothing." I also want you to BLOCKQUOTE the exact words. And I want you to specifically LINK to the exact post where I have posted that I "believe something came from nothing." I challenge you to prove you are NOT a LIAR! Otherwise, you are acting exactly like the childish, spoiled brat of a little boy I have claimed you to be.

In fact, this post proves you are being a childish, spoiled little brat.

qm: "You will see what happens to you when you die only then will you know"

And I cannot wait. I have been welcoming Death with open arms for the last ten years. And the asshole refuses to come visit. Maybe I will live forever. Who knows?

qm: "you laugh now, mock jest and despise religion but when the time of death comes and you are in your grave and cremated"

For one, when I do die, my body is going here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm#Western_Carolina_University. Why? Because I have dined on many animals and plants to provide my body with the energy it needs to live. I feel it is only fair to allow my body to be dined on to provide energy for other organisms. The circle of life thing. Something no religion seems to understand.

qm: "you are the most arrogant retard i have ever come across, you are rude, pathetic stupid and dumb."

I wholly agree with you. Remember what I said in the "What I Believe" thread?

Arakish: "I publicly argue passionately against any religion. I publicly question any religion. I publicly laugh at any religion. I publicly shame any religion. I publicly resist any religion. I publicly defile any religion."

However, if I am retarded, stupid, and dumb, then what are you? As said, I have proven to be more intelligent and knowledgeable than you are. So… I ask again, If I am the most retarded, stupid, and dumb person you have ever come across, then what are you who is less intelligent and less knowledgeable than I am?

And yes, I am arrogant. It takes arrogance to fight against such a powerful enemy as Religion. Y'all have way more power than I'll ever have. But I have critical thinking, logical reasoning, analytical thought, deductive reasoning, and rational thought. You only have faith. Thus, the difference is that I have hard emipirical evidence and you have only a lie.

Remember the Richard Dawkins quote from The God Delusion I have paraphrased? "It is precisely the reason that Religious Absolutists have NO evidence to back their claims that drives them to such hatred and violence when confronted by those of different opinion who DO HAVE hard empirical evidence to back their claims."

qm: "Probably a very terrible person to be around."

Only if you wish to discuss religion. Then I shall never, ever, pull any punches. Discuss anything else, and we'll have a ball as long as you can handle and understand my sarcastic humor.

qm: "… you hate yourself from inside."

I hate myself so much I am still sitting here after ten years of waiting with open arms for Death to come and visit. You must really be blind to not be able to see the true history of the Rise of Islam. Thus, you also hate yourself from the inside.

qm: "I bet nobody likes you in real life, just look at yourself. I have been really patient with you yet you keep on being rude. The time will come trust me, you will regret everything. Most other people in the forum are being polite and arguing in a civil way. It's people like you who nobody listens to, you waste of semen, heck your parents probably regret giving birth to you, and you know it. Don't act like you don't."

My nephew loves me to death now. I rescued him from being kidnapped and taken to Thailand against his will. It only took me a month to find him and return him to his legal guardian. Me mom loves me regardless of being an atheist. She hates my atheism, but loves me. Just as much as I hate her religiosity, but love her. And if you really want to know about unconditional love, explain how a son can still love his mother ever after she had abused her son for not being a "good Christian" when he was a child? When I was a child, I was asking legitimate questions about the Bible and the only answer the "good Christians" had was to fucking beat me. Physically abuse me. What kind of morality is that? And yet, despite me mom's abuse when I was a child, I still love me mom to death. I would sacrifice my life save her's. If that ain't unconditional love, then please explain to me what is unconditional love.

Here is a question for you to answer. Provided you ain't so delusional to not believe the answer. What is the penalty for not believing in Islam?

Me eldest sister loves me because I freed her and her husband from the shackles of religion a year ago. I spent a month with then answering their questions about my unbelief in ANY religion. BOOM! They became atheists and still ask my advice when dealing with you Religous Absolutists. Me co-workers love me because I am always cracking a good joke about religion being such a retarded ideology. Hell, I have lots of people who love me.

In fact, I love all persons. The only ones I hate are the Religious Absolutists like you. And even then I do not hate "you," I just hate your idiotic beliefs.

My Fourth Commandment of Humanity: You shall respect the right of ALL persons to believe whatsoever they wish to believe; even if contradictory to your beliefs. You may discuss beliefs; however, forcing your beliefs onto others is condemnable.

Notice it says not one word about "respecting your beliefs," only respecting "your right" to belief whatever you wish. I respect your RIGHT to belief what you wish to believe, but when it comes to respecting your beliefs, fuck you. I shall attack your beliefs in anyway I wish to attack them, even it seems I am attacking you. And remember what I said before, "Only YOU can give a word, phrase, sentence the power to offend YOU!" All is fair in love and war. And it is Religion that has declared war on ALL humanity.

Religion is nothing than a means for megalomaniacal psychotic sociopaths to control the human species. Well, it ain't gonna happen as long as I have breath. I shall fight against Religion until the day I die. Thus, keep believing in your megalomaniacal psychotic sociopathic beliefs, and we shall remain enemies.

And there is a very huge difference between a Religious Absolutist and a Religious Person. I'll leave it to you to figure out the difference.

And I am still waiting with baited breath for you to fulfill your jihadic commandment concerning my blasphemy. Waiting... Waiting... Waiting... Waiting... Waiting...

rmfr

P.S. — Just so you don't think I made up that Fourth Commandment …

My Ten Commandments of Humanity

And these ten are more relevant than any ten thousand you could come up with.

1) Question everything, trust nothing; for it is more important how to think rather than to be told what to think.

2) You shall mind your own business and responsibilities, and allow others to tend to theirs.

3) You shall render aid to others when needed, disregarding #2, as you shall want others to do for you. If your aid is refused, then do not force it.

4) You shall respect the right of ALL persons to believe whatsoever they wish to believe; even if contradictory to your beliefs. You may discuss beliefs; however, forcing your beliefs onto others is condemnable.

5) You shall live your own life always seeking to cause no harm.

6) You shall test everything; but you shall check your own ideas against the facts and evidence, and you shall always be ready to discard even a cherished belief if it does not conform to the facts and evidence.

7) You shall never overlook evil or shrink from administering justice; but you shall always be ready to forgive minor wrongdoing freely admitted and honestly regretted.

8) You shall treat ALL living things with love, honesty, respect, fidelity, and trust.

9) You shall never indoctrinate anyone, especially children, regardless of their situation; rather, teach them how to think, how to evaluate evidence, and how to disagree with you without disrespect and dishonor.

10) You shall value the future on a timescale longer than your own life span.

And here is a Cherokee Native American saying I learned as a child, "You do not inherit the land from your ancestors. You are borrowing it from your children."

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Sheldon's picture
You're using a fallacy called

You're using a fallacy called argumentum ad ignorantiam. It's been understood since ancient Greece. The fact you're too blinkered or stupid to learn what it means doesn't change this fact.

Since you've been here everyone's been reasonably patient with your ignorance and stupidity, so drop the attitude sunshine. You haven't used your brain since you've been here.

Your vapid iron age superstition is as farcical as all the others, and your woefully ill- informed spiel contains every theistic cliche in the book. It's sad you think this nonsense is valid or even profound, but its also extremely tedious to have to walk someone as ignorant as you are through such basic concepts as common logical fallacies. So do try and learn something before you inevitably leave here.

Now start using your brain...you cheeky twat.

quantummechanist's picture
I can see your getting angry

I can see your getting angry and defensive, a common indication you have no counter argument against mine. You can't comprehend that yes, God can exist

Tin-Man's picture
@Quantum Re: "I can see your

@Quantum Re: "I can see your getting angry and defensive..."

*chuckle*... Hate to burst your bubble, Junior, but if you honestly think you are making anybody on here even remotely angry, then you are even more delusional than we already think you are. LOL With any luck, maybe one day you will grow up and understand what that means... *chuckle*

Sheldon's picture
I can see your arrogant

I can see your arrogant frustrated ad hominem didn't get the provocation you'd hoped. Hence you using this risible lie about me being angry, you are ignorant in every meaning of the word, but if you think an ignorant ill mannered and ill informed theists makes me angry you have not read enough of these threads.

"a common indication you have no counter argument "

I need no counter argument to invisible unicorns.

"You can't comprehend that yes, God can exist"

Then show some semblance of objective evidence for your vapid superstitious belief..

Tempus fugit....

You may get wood from belief in ancient superstitions, that venerate illiterate barbarous paedophile warlords, but I'm unimpressed. If your deity is so impressive why does does it always need its deluded and irascible human pets to show non-believers how impressive it is?

Where is it? It's so unimpressive it dealt in juvenile erroneous texts for centuries, and now is desperately trying to impress rational people with the absurd idea these vague texts mirror current scientific knowledge. I'd be a little impressed if it had simply explained accurately these ideas in an unequivocal way.

just like miracles that are never properly evidenced, why not just make every human know it it exists? Or make every copy of the koran indestructible, instead of relying on its human pets to angrily proclaim it's validity when it has long since ceased to be of any real relevance beyond some nice poetry and a glimpse of our unpleasant superstitious and barbaric past.

"“Many religions now come before us with ingratiating smirks and outspread hands, like an unctuous merchant in a bazaar. They offer consolation and solidarity and uplift, competing as they do in a marketplace. But we have a right to remember how barbarically they behaved when they were strong and were making an offer that people could not refuse.”

― Christopher Hitchens, ***God Is Not Great***: How Religion Poisons Everything

Sheldon's picture
Invisible unevidenced deities

Invisible unevidenced deities like invisible unevidenced unicorns, don't require any counter arguments. If you weren't the most clueless apologists we've had on here for some time you'd grasp this, sadly as others have pointed out you seem unable to learn even the most simple concepts. Then again what else can one expect from someone intent on venerating a murderous barbaric illiterate paedophile from the ancient middle east.

I know what we can expect, endless unevidenced claims, like this one:

"god can exist"

I don't believe your claim, and won't believe it until you can demonstrate objective evidence for it, and since it's clear you don't know what objective means, and are unable to learn simple word definitions i don't see that happening any time soon.

TheBlindWatchmaker's picture
So did Islam, does that make

how many times do i need to say this the "God of the gaps" argument is irrelevant before science existed and yes science had an absolute beginning it cannot have created itself.

So did Islam, does that make it irrelevant?

Mutorc S'yriah's picture
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quantummechanist . . .

where did that microwave background radiation come from (MBR) and if that
came from something else scientific then where did that come from?

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Each change, each move forward, each evolution of anything takes time.
If we trace back in time, each point in history was derived from the one before.
Time itself started with the big bang. Therefore there was no 'before the big bang',
and nothing could change, to become the universe, without time in which it could
have occurred. Perhaps the best answer to the origin of the universe, and its
MBR, is: 'We have no idea, YET'.

Unanswered questions do not deserve to be plugged up with: ' "God" did it'.
There is no evidence for this god, (or none of which I'm aware). Furthermore, to
say that "God" is the first uncaused cause, is a fallacy called SPECIAL PLEADING.

It means that you just ASSERT that there is a first uncaused cause, and you call
it "God". One might just as well say that the uncaused cause was a universe-
making fairy, (or anything else one might fancy asserting, to plug up the gap in
our knowledge and understanding).
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SPECIAL PLEADING.

An article on the matter :-

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special_pleading

Some examples from the article :-

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special_pleading#Examples

A quote from the article :-

In the Thomistic cosmological argument for the existence of God, everything
requires a cause. However, proponents of the argument then create a special
case where God doesn't need a cause, but they can't say why in any parti-
cularly rigorous fashion.
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IMHO, we should not believe things to be true without good verifiable evidence
for them. Saying: "where did that come from?", in reference to the MBR is tanta-
mount to saying: 'I can't think of a well evidenced explanation, so I'll say that
"God" did it'. That too, is a fallacy, called the ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE.
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ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE

An article on the matter :-

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Some examples from this second article :-

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance#Examples

A quote from the article :-

"I don't see how evolution could increase the complexity of an organism,"
"material properties of the brain cannot presently explicitly explain consc-
iousness so it must be caused by non-materialist processes," or "I don't
know how this alternative medicine works, but it does."
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Your argument, quantummechanist, seems to be: "I can't fathom how the
MBR came to be, so I'll say "God" magicked it into existence, one way or another.
The way or ways, I don't understand, and so it adds nothing to our understanding,
apart from . . . < It was magical*, done by a mighty magical being >.

* = use whatever euphemism for magic makes it seem noble.

I find that to be neither rigorous, nor even a sufficient answer.

Mu.

quantummechanist's picture
No no CMB obviously had a

No no CMB obviously had a beginning. Before SCIENCE itself existed(yes science had a cause) what other logical explanation can you have other than God, because you see, science is truly amazing right, and it explains everything else in existence as far as time goes back. but cannot explain itself before its existence. science cannot explain what happened before science itself so using scientific methods and trying to find scientific proof for the existence of God (who is OUTSIDE the scope of time, space and matter) will NOT ever prove the existence of God. what the majority, (if not all) atheists fail to do is use rational logical argument. i mean come on its like studying history in preparation for a chemistry exam, the two really don't work.
If atheists are ever to come to an understanding of God they need to phase out the nonsense about "there's no scientific evidence for God". because there never will be . Instead we use logical argument and yes, do look at holy texts i.e the Quran
here's a verse "And We(Allah) made the sky a protected ceiling, but they, from its signs, are turning away" Quran 21:32
now let me explain that verse, 'the sky a protected ceiling': Ok, so the ozone layer in the sky, protects us from harmful radiation the comes from the sun, and also the asteroids that come from space. I can quote many ayah(verses) from the Quran with more signs if you want. And by the way, NOBODY in 7th century arabia or anywhere across the world could have known this.Please now sir, bring me forth a contradictory argument against mine.

arakish's picture
Please see my previous reply.

Please see my previous reply. It also answers this one.

rmfr

EDIT: Oops. Except for the asteroids thing. I already told you little boy, the ozone layer will NOT protect us from any asteroids (meteors). If of sufficient size, they punch right through the ozone layer without even knowing it was there.

Quit reading a book of plagiarized faerie tales. The Qu'ran was plagiarized from the Christian New Testament and the Hebrew Old Testament, collectively known as the Bible. But guess what? The Bible was plagiarized from legends and myths far, FAR! older than the Bible. Some many thousands of years older.

ALL RELIGIONS are plagiarized. They have evolved and become sophisticated. However, they are all plagiarized. Islam is nothing more than the collected lies of a warmongering pedophilic rapist.

quantummechanist's picture
Firstly, stop calling me

Firstly, stop calling me little boy, I find that offensive, rude and immature.
Secondly, yes asteroids of sufficient size can penetrate our ozone layer but right now, no asteroid of that size is approaching Earth.
I noticed how you also subtlety dissed the fact that the ozone layer protects us from radiation against the sun(If it didn't we'd all have been dead a long time ago). I've said this before and I'm going to say it again SCIENCE WILL NEVER PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD EVER. Let me tell you why, God is totally independent of science and had existed prior to science. Trying to find scientific proof for the existence of God, is like learning basket ball in order to learn God exists, you see the two don't bode at all. Instead we do take the Quran to be the divine revelation of God.
I invite you to visit this website to read about the embryo in the Quran https://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-a.htm

Thirdly, you saying that all religions are plagiarised, on what bases are you saying that on? And no, the Quran was not copied off the old testament. As someone who has studied religion as science all his life I know what I'm talking about.

Fourthly; Since you really don't have any rational arguments(most of your thoughts are presumptions with no basis),I noticed how you tried to insult our prophet(PBUH). At the time where baby girls were being killed when they were born, he stood up and stopped all of this. And in terms of his wife Aisha(PBUH) he only had relationships with his when she was of age. So don't go round mocking the best person to walk the Earth. In terms of war, he forgave the people who threw him out of his home city after he spread islam. He forgave the person who killed his uncle in war , whom he loved dearly, so don't go round attacking the best man who walked the Earth.
There are so many more examples of this. Which other human being has that much mercy, you tell me.

Lastly, stop with the rudeness, it doesn't make you look any better, just makes you look foolish and shows your inability to learn, and emphasises your arrogance.

arakish's picture
@ quantum misconception

@ quantum misconception

quantum mistake: "Firstly, stop calling me little boy, I find that offensive, rude and immature."

In venerable words of Stephen Fry:

“It’s very common to hear people say, ‘I’m rather offended by that.’ As if that gives them certain rights. It’s actually nothing more … than a whine. ‘I find that offensive.’ It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. ‘I am offended by that.’ Well, so fucking what.”

And in MINE OWN WORDS:

“Only YOU have the power to give a word, phrase, sentence the power to offend YOU!” — RMF Runyan

I am so sorry I am calling you exactly what you are: little boy.

quantum mishap: "Secondly, yes asteroids of sufficient size can penetrate our ozone layer but right now, no asteroid of that size is approaching Earth."

What about the NEOs? Even the smallest could completely wipe out our civilization returning us to the Stone Age. And then, instead of religion, we would be forced to rely on our wits (science) to survive.

quantum misconception: "I noticed how you also subtlety dissed the fact that the ozone layer protects us from radiation against the sun"

And where did I "dissed" that fact? Please show me where I "dissed" the fact about the ozone layer. Prove I "dissed" that fact, or shut the fuck up you lying little boy.

Just like all Religious Absolutists you are incapable of EVER speaking the truth. When someone disagrees with you and shows you where you are wrong, ALL of you Religious Absolutists resort to same tactic: LIES. Did you ever hear about the Chelyabinsk meteor? Although it never made it to the ground before exploding, which is something that ALWAYS happens to ALL meteors of sufficiently small size. We still do not know the exact size of where a meteor will explode before impacting, or it will penetrate all the way to ground. Additionally, the composition of the meteor also dictates when it will explode. An icy meteor (a.k.a. comet) will explode higher in the atmosphere and at a larger size than a meteor that is mostly iron. It is believed that if the Chelyabinsk meteor had been a ferric-meteor, then it would have penetrated all the way to the ground, creating a much larger explosion and much more damage, death, and injury. I was at UNM when a grad student was able to analyze a small piece of the Chelyabensk meteor. And I helped her since I was also a grad student (going for my Global Climatology ScD). Anyway, that Chelyabinsk meteor easily punched through the ozone, exploding within the ozone layer of the atmosphere at about 29km altitude. The ozone layer is largely located at about 50km. And the Chelyabinsk meteor was only about 20 meters in size. If a 20 meter rock (a grain of sand in astrophysical dimensions) was able to cause that much damage by exploding in the atmosphere, what would a 50 meter grain of sand have done?

Don't fuck with me little boy in the field of astrophysics, celestial mechanics, and orbital mechanics. These have been life-long hobbies for over 50 years. And yes, compared to me in age, you are a little boy. Additionally you are acting like your deity;

Robert A Heinlein once said, and I paraphrase, "Men rarely, if ever, create any god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a childish, spoiled brat."

quantum misapplication: "I invite you to visit this website to read about the embryo in the Quran https://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-a.htm"

I have already read the Qu'ran several times. I ain't reading that garbage again. Remember what I said about your precious Muhammed? He was nothing more than a theiving, lying, warmongering, murdering, pedophilic rapist. Does not the Qu'ran say I am to be put to death for daring to utter such blasphemy? Are you man enough to carry this out?

Additionally, the only thing the Qu'ran, the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita, and ANY other religious text is worth to me is to have a store of "emergency butt-wipe paper."

quantum miscalculation: "Thirdly, you saying that all religions are plagiarised, on what bases are you saying that on?"

Because all religions began from superstitions used to describe natural phenomena us apes could not explain beginning some... what?... 2.5 million years ago? As the phenomena continued to be witnessed, certain persons who already had megalomaniacal tendencies saw the perfect opportunity in which to make people in the tribe to do all the work for them, supplying them with "best of the best," "the cream of the crop," by saying it is "a sacrifice to the almighty sky faerie so that our tribe may prosper." And when disaster strikes, does the tribe blame that lazy asshole megalomaniacal psychotic sociopath? No. He convinces them it is due to their sin. What a crock of shit...

Then as this progressed and evolved (yes evolved), it became what we now know as the Torah, Talmud, Bible, Qu'ran, Bhagavad Gita, etc., etc., etc., etc. Thus, as the legends and myths continued to be passed down by "word of mouth" (ever hear of the "chinese whispers" game?), they continued to grow larger and larger than life until they became written down and "inspired" by the "holy ghasts" as the "word of the all-powerful sky faeire."

You really need to go back to school little boy, and do not skip any classes. And this time around, actually listen and learn something.

Here is something else I have said:

Religious Logic for Miracles:
I, [insert name], am incapable of understanding how [insert phenomena] could have happened. Thus [chosen deity] must have performed a miracle. — RMF Runyan

Anyone who relies on that form of logic is dumber than dirt and stupider than snot.

quantum misjudgment: "I noticed how you tried to insult our prophet. At the time where baby girls were being killed when they were born, he stood up and stopped all of this. And in terms of his wife Aisha he only had relationships with his when she was of age."

I do not just insult your pathetic Muhammed. I publicy defame it. I publicly defile it. I publicly laugh at it. And when did 9 years old ever become to mean "of age?" That is nothing more than child rape and molestation. Your pathetic Muhammed was horny after his bloodlust and a nine year old was the only thing for him stick his prick in. And, yes, I call your precious Muhammed an "it" henceforth because IT does not even deserve to be anthropomorphized.

quantum misstep: "So don't go round mocking the best person to walk the Earth."

Come and stop me from mocking your pathetic Muhammed who was actually the worst war crimes criminal to ever get away with its crimes. Come and stop me little boy, if you think you are man enough. I wait with baited breath.

quantum muddle: "Lastly, stop with the rudeness, it doesn't make you look any better, just makes you look foolish and shows your inability to learn, and emphasises your arrogance."

From what I have read on this thread, you were the one started the rudeness. Ever hear the saying, "The first to throw is going buried in it"?

Damn! It is so much fun just sitting here thinking of synonyms of "mistake" that also begin with "m".

Go back to school and learn something quantum misadventure.

rmfr

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arakish's picture
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Oh please, someone help.

Paraphrased from The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins — "It is precisely the knowledge that Religious Absolutists have NO evidence to back their preposterous claims that drives them to such hatred and violence against those who do HAVE evidence to back their arguments."

Hey, CyberLN, think I should be punished for using the truth?

rmfr

Randomhero1982's picture
Oh dear... Arakish broke

Oh dear... Arakish broke another one...

CyberLN's picture
I think the name calling

I think the name calling should come to a stop.

Tin-Man's picture
@Cyber

@Cyber

Yes, Ma'am. Understood.

arakish's picture
Yes Me Lady. Crystal. rmfr

Yes Me Lady. Crystal.

rmfr

quantummechanist's picture
what angered me is what you

what angered me is what you said against the prophet(pbuh) not the argument of the existence of God.
i mean if you follow someones teachings and that person means more to you than any other human being you will get angry

CyberLN's picture
qm, caveat emptor. You are

qm, caveat emptor. You are on a site called Atheist Republic. If you are unwilling to hear what folks who are atheist have to say about religions and the creators and supporters of those religions, you had best not read posts from them. Remember, you came here willingly.

arakish's picture
quantum misbehaviour

quantum misbehaviour

what angered me is what you said against the prophet(pbuh) not the argument of the existence of God.
i mean if you follow someones teachings and that person means more to you than any other human being you will get angry

If you do not like the TRUE TRUTH being presented to you, then you do not have to come here. Did we force you to come here? Did we hack your computer and made Atheist Republic the only place your browser can go?

And, NO! I do not get angry if a person belittle's someone whose teachings I have absorbed. I just laugh at them for being a fool and not actually having the knowledge to know what they are talking about. Most persons whose teachings I have absorbed are scientists. Thus, if a Religious Absolutist belittle one of my fellow scientists, I can only laugh at their lack of knowledge and ignorance.

However, about your precious Muhammad. You really need to read the irrefutable objective hard empirical evidence that has been found by archaeologists. Most of what they have found is writings in stone about how your precious Muhammad did as much wholesale slaughter of entire cities just as is written in the Bible. Here is what your Muhammad did to FORCE Islam onto everyone he could: Murdered, Raped, Tortured, Lied, Extorted, Sacrificed, Ravaged, Swindled, Exploited, Plundered, Abused, Coerced, Pillaged, Tormented, Harassed, Rampaged, Insulted, Endangered, Threatened, Did I miss any?, Oppressed, Persecuted, Committed Ethnic Cleansing, Terrorized, Mutilated Genitalia, Enslaved, Molested and Raped Children, Corrupted, Committed Genocidal Cleansing, How many others did I miss?

Look it up. Do some research. Searching for answers is what it is to be human, instead of a robot and being force fed the data. There is no shame in being self-taught, searching for knowledge for yourself. The only shame is in not seeking learning and knowledge in the first place.

Your problem is also this meme:

Scientists/Atheists read many, many books, and still feel they have a lot to learn.
Religious Absolutists barely read one book and feel they know everything.

Do some of these exercises whenever you are reading that book of plagiarized faerie tales: Critical Thinking, Rational Thinking, Logical Reasoning, Analytical Thinking, Deductive Reasoning.

rmfr

EDIT: Clarified a thought

quantummechanist's picture
He did none of that at all

He did none of that at all btw he did not have sexual with his wife till she was 13. He did the complete of opposite of persecuting, at a time where men killed there babies, he stopped them. He forgave the man who killed his uncle whom he loved dearly, also he gave every last bit of money he had to charity, freed slaves all across the nation etc.

All those claims you made about the prophet(pbuh) are false and probably what you do, I mean come on, your an old fart, you probably look at all these young chicks and think 'ohhhhh i wish i could get up in there'.and you probably get rejected each and every time lol, and you always will. Your probably more of a pervert than anyone else, which is why you watch porn all the time.
I read lots and lots of books btw, believing in God doesn't mean you refuse to learn and understand science, which mind you, hasn't proved God doesn't exist

Deductive reasoning is exactly how I explained the existence of God.
The most irrational belief is that this universe doesn't have a cause.

arakish's picture
@ nolongerknowwhatcallyou

@ nolongerknowwhatcallyou

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1c9g2z4sSM

Wow. You are the little boy I used to call you. Such hatred and violence. What was it Richard Dawkins said?

As your book of faerie tales was plagiarized from the Bible, and it was plagiarized from far, FAR! older myths and legends, I am going to plagiarize the below (not really Nyar):

The Rise of the Muhammadans

https://www.jewishhistory.org/the-rise-of-islam/ (amongst many other hundreds I have found)

Murder: When Mohammed realized that the Jews rejected him he took direct action and his followers assassinated the leaders of the Jewish tribes.

Ethnic Genocidal Cleansing: After Mohammed’s forces destroyed all of his enemies in Medina they turned toward Mecca. His army marched into the city, destroyed all opposition, and forcibly converted everyone there, as well as those in neighboring villages.

Combined – murder, rape, torture, extortion, ravaging, plundering, abuse, pillaging, tormenting, rampaging, oppression, persecution, more ethnic genocidal cleansing, terrorism, mutilation of gentalia, enslavment, molestation and rape of children: …Muhammad's armies whose avowed purpose was to go forth, conquer the rest of the Middle East, and forcibly convert it to Islam.

And that is only one web page. I have found hundreds of others. I have even seen the artifacts in person that say these same exact things about the Muhammadans as they rampaged across the Middle East, especially across modern day Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and beyond. And back then, by the others who were trampled by them, they were called the "Muhammadans."

As said, you need to do some actually studies and reading. From what you have said here, you ain't studied a damn thing in anything, except in that book of plagiarized faerie tales. Everytime you have posted anything scientific, you have been completely wrong. Absolutely, utterly wrong. Not one science statement you have made has been correct in any portion.

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Mods/Admins, from this point, I cannot abide someone who continues to say the things about me that this little boy has done at least twice, if not thrice. If the remainder of this post gets me banished, so be it.

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I mean look at the difference between you and I. The only thing I have ever called you is a little boy. You must understand one thing, I am over three times your age. To me, you shall be a little boy until about the age of 24. It is the same way I treat everybody, male or female. To me, you ain't going to be an adult until you are 24. I was treated the same way when I was growing up. Even though I had twin daughters at the age of 22, I was still called a "boy" by the elders. Did it bother me? Hell no. It was standard culture. And it is what I believe in wholeheartedly. And there ain't a damned person on this entire Earth that is going to change that belief. Especially a little boy like you.

Considering Aisha. Muhammad forcefully made her marry him at the age of 6 (and I guarantee he consummated it by raping her then). Muhammad raped her at the age of 9. NOT 13. And even if he had waited until she was 13, that is still child rape and molestation. Your precious murdering, warmongering, thieving, lying shit of a human was also a child rapist and molestar.

As for me watching porn. Can you prove it? Do you have a hidden camera of me watching porn while assaulting the anaconda, bopping the balogna, choking the chicken, soothing the snake, whacking the weiner, massaging the mast, teasing the tentpole, on my couch? Do you get your jollies by watching me whack it while watching porn? If so, then what does that make you?

If you cannot prove these accusations, then you had better desist. Next time I shall have the mods/admins banish you from this site.

If Islam is a religion of peace, yet all I have called you is a little boy (the truth), and you have said such nasty, awful, crude, foul, filthy things about me, proves Islam is nothing more than a religion of hatred and violence just like Christianity.

I am not violating any guidelines by calling you a little boy, especially since it is the truth, and you have done but prove it true. Your posts, and what you have written in those posts, especially in response to me, have proven you are a little boy in intelligence, knowledge, dispostion, and maturity. I seriously doubt you are 19 years old. I guarantee you are not even as old as my daughters were when they were murdered.

How is it I seem to be the only one so privileged to receive such filth from your mind when others have made fun of you and your religion?

Little Boy, if you cannot handle the TRUE Truth, then do not come here. Period. Exclamation Point!

rmfr

arakish's picture
quantumgetagrip: "old scum

quantumgetagrip: "old scum sits at home watching porn and jacking off"

What!?! I can sit at home and watch porn and jack off?! When did this happen? Damn, I'm missing all the fun...

rmfr

Tin-Man's picture
@Quantum Re: Rant

@Quantum Re: Rant

ROFLMFAO..... Bwaaa-haaaa-haaaaa...!!! Wow! That has got to be one of the most colorful rants I have seen on here in quite awhile! Totally awesome!.... Bwaaa-haaaa-haaaa!!!.... Dammit, I am almost even a little bit impressed! Outstanding! Do it again! Do it again!.... *clapping excitedly*.... LMAO....

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