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quantum moo-pattie: "You see you have nothing to say at all, please refute my argument"
What argument? All I have seen is you spewing crap about some non-existent sky faerie and your hero who happens to be a lying, thieving, warmongering, pedophilic rapist.
And the biggest problem is you cannot offer any irrefutable objective hard empirical evidence. NONE!
NO EVIDENCE = NO EXISTENCE
rmfr
We know for an objective fact that the ozone layer formed naturally. Nothing supernatural and no deity is required to explain how it formed, you are quite simply laughably wrong.
Your assertion the ozone layer is protection from asteroids is so absurdly stupid you are simply embarrassing yourself. However I actually a site explaining the ten largest asteroids that are known to have struck the earth.
Vredefort Crater. Asteroid impact date: Estimated 2 billion years ago. ...
Sudbury Basin. Asteroid impact date: Estimated 1.8 billion years ago. ...
Acraman Crater. Asteroid impact date: Estimated 580 million years ago. ...
Woodleigh Crater. ...
Manicouagan Crater. ...
Morokweng Crater. ...
Kara Crater. ...
Chicxulub Crater.
So your claim was risible nonsense.
It's you unfortunately who has absolutely nothing intelligent to say, and that sadly is unlikely to change while you insist on mangling every claim, belief and fact to try and make it validate an archaic superstition that you've probably been inculcated with from birth. If you have any interest in objective truth, or intelligent discourse, then you will have to outgrow intransigent superstition, and that is your choice, but you need to stop shooting the messenger, as no one forced you to come here and seek out objective criticisms of your superstitious and irrational beliefs.
Though He speaks to you constantly, you are all deaf to the voice of the OverLord.
Finally a theist responds, glad to have you here pal.
rat spit "Though He speaks to you constantly, you are all deaf to the voice of the OverLord."
I don't believe either of your unevidenced claims.
The OverLord has created the world in his infinite wisdom to divide it between the good and the evil. The world is an ethical question to be answered and experienced.
Despite us all knowing the earth was formed from a nebula accretion, which is par for the course in cosmology...
Are you sure you wasn't in the film, blazing saddles?
Show us on the doll where he touched you!
Just what we need... another black hole in the universe.
By the way, real black holes are cool objects to study. When they collide, they unleash gravitational waves. I wonder what will happen if "quantummechanist" and Apollo were ever to fusion?
lol
if i were to be a black hole i would need to be compressed into my individual Schwartzchild radius R=2GM/c^2
that would mean I'd have to be 4.72x10^-33 metres in diameter. Theoretically possible, but very hard to achieve in practice.
yes i do study physics
From what you have demonstrated thus far, that claim appears dubious at best.
Either that or your university/college is of a shocking low standard, judging by your previous posts.
Uhhh that would mean you have a mass of about 0.000002 kilograms. You look skinny in your photo, but not that skinny!
Maybe you should study a little more.
And you are wrong. Going on assumptions here. I am guessing you are 85kg, or about 185 pounds.
This means your Schwarzchild Radius is 1.2624434627399826e-25 meters.
Oh, and you spelled Schwarzchild wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius
Evidently this statement is false.
rmfr
He studies physics about as much as Kent Hovind studies Paleontology.
It was obviously wrong since if the object had the Planck mass, its radius should be about the Planck length. But the radius he gave was only 2 orders of magnitude greater than the Plank length. Meaning his mass is only 2 orders greater than the Planck mass or about 10^(-6) kg. That would require some serious dieting.
I'm guessing arakish spotted it by comparing the powers of 10:
(-33) ≠ (2) + (-11) + (-16)
-33 ≠ -25
You might notice it gives the correct order of magnitude (on the right hand side)!
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You also might notice that the discrepancy is 8 orders of magnitude. That sure sounds like the speed of light in SI units. I think someone forgot to square something!
But its worse: if you forget to square the speed of light, you won't get an answer in meters, you'll get something in meters^2*seconds; which is definitely not a radius. A sure sign that something has gone horribly wrong.
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Anyway, was fun, but I'm sure we've bored everyone to tears by now!
Nyar,
You missed the fact that when you multiply everything out, all units cancel except meters radius.
rmfr
Oh what I was trying to say is that if he left out one of the c's, it would explain the 8 orders of magnitude discrepancy. But it would fail to cancel down like you pointed out. It should have been a big clue to him something was horribly wrong when his answer wasn't in meters (length).
nah 58 kg and so what if i spelt it wrong why does that matter
Still means only 8.61432009869635e-26 meters. NOT the colossal mistake of (whatever)e-33.
If you are going to claim to study a scientific field, you should spell something within that field correctly. Else, you are showing that, as far as I am concerned, to be lying about studying physics, specifically Astrophysics. Something I have been studying for over 50 years.
You claim to be 19 years old. However, your grammar, spelling, and punctuation, regardless of you being a Muslim, indicates to me that you are about 9 years old. Plus, only 58 kg!? When I was 19, I weighed 86kg (190lbs). You are nothing more than skin and bones. Careful when you are outside. You might blow away.
Nyar, what is record for such mistakes?
Also, by the time I was 19, I had already earned my first degree. Only an Associate's, but still a degree. How many degrees do you have? Don't include the fake one you have in that faerie tale book.
rmfr
Believe it or not, a creationist made a mistake here of ~300 orders of magnitude. It was the worst mistake I've ever even heard of.
/e Now I have to eat my words. I remember now that once a creationist posted something to the effect of the probability of life forming randomly was 10^(55,000). But of course he clearly meant 10^(-55,000). So not sure if that one should count; but if it does its like 110,000 orders of magnitude. :P
Funny how one minus sign can fuck shit up so badly! But I think they just mis-copied it or something, so maybe it shouldn't count.
Whooaaa!! Even 300 is phenomenal. 55,000/110,000? ***faint ... thump***
*** after coming to...***
Damn, and to think my record is only about 3. And that was a brain fart typo. Not paying attention.
I think I am going to have work on my exponentiation skills...
rmfr
on a gap year at the moment, i start it September 2019, I am applying for a degree in physics and astrophysics.
only just turned 19 this month btw.
at school I achieved mostly A grades, (including all sciences).
just because I believe in the Quran doesn't mean I can't be a physicist.
there are plenty of muslim physicists in the world.
Oh yh in finding Schwarzschild radius i multiplied it by 2 to get the diameter. and i forgot to square C
As someone who is just writing his bachelor thesis in physics i am very interested, if you will stop believing in a god because of your studies.
Physicists have the 2nd highest percentage of atheists of all population groups, only after biologists, and that's for a good reason.
When you start to go down into theories like quantum mechanics, quantum electro dynamics, quantum gravity etc. and seeing all the symmetries, it's hard to believe in a god. Such a believe only hinders your urge to find out, how everything works. I am just at the start of that journey myself and already can't imagine, that anything supernatural exists, anymore.
Rhauk "As someone who is just writing his bachelor thesis in physics i am very interested, if you will stop believing in a god because of your studies.
Physicists have the 2nd highest percentage of atheists of all population groups, only after biologists, and that's for a good reason.
When you start to go down into theories like quantum mechanics, quantum electro dynamics, quantum gravity etc. and seeing all the symmetries, it's hard to believe in a god. Such a believe only hinders your urge to find out, how everything works. I am just at the start of that journey myself and already can't imagine, that anything supernatural exists, anymore."
Thank you Rhuak, a very apropos post, as so many theists come here and try to claim science evidences their deity, or evidences part if their religious beliefs, but it's as if they think we won't have noticed that the scientific world doesn't agree at all. Do they really think physicists are simply keeping quiet about a deity being evidenced by science? The mind boggles.
Talking of religious demographics, here is an interesting piece of research. In the US the elite Academy of Sciences only admits scientists at the forefront of their respective fields, the Academy naturally has among its members people who are the most well educated, intelligent and erudite in the country. While atheism among the general populace has been placed during decades of research at around 6%, in the Academy this is the mirror reverse, with atheism at around 94%.
Nor is this the only research that indicates that theism drops in most demographics in direct proportion as intelligence and education increase. This is true globally as well, with religion growing fastest among the poorest and least educated populations. I'll try and dig up some research stats. However there is a very good reason christians in the US are reluctant to send their children away to secular universities.
I am not surprised, i feel like the combination of poor and less educated inevitably drives one into religions hands. Also i would love to see some stats, thank you a lot.
Thank you Rhauk.
You literally said exactly what I was going to say. The fields of science I have studied and earned some degrees in are Astrophysics (focus in Celestial Mechanics and Orbital Mechanics), Geology, Geography, Geographic Information Science, and Volcanology. Thus, yes. As one studies into more and more sciences, the less they believe in religion.
@ quantum misunderstood
And 90±% of them are atheist. And are from a Muslim heritage, but still atheist.
rmfr
That's quite a combination of sciences you got there, mad respect. I was also thinking about studying astrophysics for quite some time, are you still active on that topic?
@ Rhauk
In self-studies. I earned an Honorary BSc in Astrophysics with focus in Celestial Mechanics (star and planet formation) and Orbital Mechanics. However, I have been studying astrophysics and all its sub-fields when me dad bought my first telescope some 50+ years ago. Have always been fascinated with Celestial Mechanics. I even wrote an in-depth, science based system for creating stellar systems in a RPG setting. Have been meaning to go back and update it with all the new discoveries, but my plate is only so big...
Additionally, I have also been "rock hound" all my life and geology, geomorphology, volcanism have also been life-long studies. And that is what specifically focused into because I did want to work at Yellowstone. The world's largest currently active land-based caldera, sometimes called super-volcanos. And I tired me damnedest to let go to Hawai'i to visit Fissure 8, but they would not let me. I so wanted to go see that lava river and the lava fountains it spewed. Damn it.
Volcanos have been my biggest fascination, tied with hurricanes. As another member here said, I find so fascinating to watch and study the forces of nature that us barbaric apes have absolutely no control. I even used to be a hurricane chaser. Only category 3 or lower. I went through a borderline category 4 — category 5 hurricane. That is when I decided only Cat3 or lower. Even used to chase tornadoes a few times when I took vacation. Survived going through one and said never again.
Yeah, the very powerful forces of nature have always been a fascination for me. And when growing up, unlike most other kids, Mr. Spock of Star Trek was my hero. Science, logic, reasoning. My hero.
Anyway I am ranting and almost lost control. Let me shut up.
rmfr
EDIT: Damn I forgot to answer your question: "Are you still active on that topic?" Not as much other than sitting at home and reading the latest books published and mostly keeping up with what is going on at the NASA, JPL, ESA, and other such web sites. After the deaths of my family, I ain't never bought another telescope.
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