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Next time keep the units in the equation so if you make a mistake like that (and it happens to everyone) it will be obvious that something is very wrong. Try doing it more like this.
" I achieved mostly A grades, (including all sciences)."
So you know that all life evolved then, how does that square with the nonsensical creation myth in the koran?
of course i know life evolved i never denied that
i'm saying everything that happened had an absolute cause
Not necessarily. I have already said this twice. Scientists are now doing experiments where they are seeing "effects" occur without any "cause." If they duplicate this in a laboratory, then what makes you think it cannot also occur OUTSIDE the laboratory?
Do some research. Quit believing that book of plagiarized faerie tales. Searching for knowledge is what it means to be HUMAN instead of being a ROBOT and force fed data. There is no shame in being self-taught, searching for knowledge and learning. The only shame is not searching for knowledge in the first place.
You say you have not even been to college. Then why are you here showing of your ignorance against people who are 2 to 3½ times your age. People who also have twice and thrice your life experience. Twice and thrice your knowledge. You seem to have followed this meme to the letter:
Scientists/Atheists read many, many books and still feel they have a lot to learn.
Religious Absolutists barely read one book and feel they know everything.
Read some more books. Absorb more knowledge. Then come back in about ten years.
rmfr
haven't yet been to university but will in 2019 (God willing)
academically so far, I have done well.
I don't know how it works in America but here in the UK between school and university we can take a gap year if we want to.
Basically a year out to pursue passions, due charity work etc. I am currently reading God delusion by richard dawkins and i am also going to order lawrence krauss a universe from nothing once i am done with this. What you don't understand is , yes of course i read books on the existence of the universe etc. But me believing in one God doesn't contradict anything these scientists say. I said this before and i am going to say this again, science will never prove God's existence because God is independent of science
quantummechanist,
I believe you are on the right track. If I could suggest one book, it would be Personal Knowledge, By Polanyi long championed, apparently, by the University of Chicago. Its a difficult book for one starting university, but if you keep coming back to it, you will eventually appreciate it.
Isn't that the book you knowingly and repeatedly lied to us about?
it's spelt metres btw
That depends on one’s location.
True dat.
In the UK a gas meter is used to measure gas in cubic metres, it has the advantage of distinguishing between the measurement and the equipment used to measure.
I have simply extirpated "normalcy" "aggressiveness" and "intuitiveness" from my mental dictionary. The first one is risible, the other two are just lazy IMHO. I think words have more potency when they are aesthetically pleasing, and when someone says normalcy or intuitiveness I want to kick my television off it's stand.
Each to their own I suppose, but I must admit I struggle with some of the variations of American English. I must be getting old and cantankerous.
Sheldon,
I don't think it is old and cantankerous. Its narcissistic disrespect for people. Attack ideas you do not like, but don't attack people.
And it is spelled spelled, not spelt. Spelt is a grain fed to cattle. (Spelt: hardy wheat grown mostly in Europe for livestock feed).
And as CyberLN, meters is spelled dependent upon language. Metre is actually the French spelling. Meter is the English version. However, the UK did adapt the French spelling as pointed by Sheldon. And it does make excellent sense.
rmfr
* PUFF * And then silence!
It would certainly be infinitely dense.
It could even form a naked singularity, cause religion defies all logic and natural laws
I'm calling it....
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More like
(((UTTER^∞)^∞)^…)
rmfr
Well played sir ... Well played!
Now back to time out with you,
What have we told you about breaking the credulous?!
Even if i am not the recipient of this message, am i to understand that we are not to... hem... enlighten them?
I simply does not matter. We do not know that it did in fact come from nothing. We do not know what existed before our time space continuum. What is important is that we do not pretend to know what we do not know. It is good to be honest and simply say I do not know. The kalam cosmological argument is that once it asserts that something can not come from nothing(which we can not know as we don't know what was before our universe came into existance, so therefore physics as we know it may not have applied.) is that the first thing it does is assert that God made something form nothing. It simply can not be both ways.
AMEN, brother Compelled. I ain't never afraid to say "I do not know." And if I have an idea, I'll also tell you that. However, ultimately, it is "I do not know."
rmfr
I don't believe the universe came from nothing. I agree with Michio Kaku. Basically, gravity works until you get to a black hole. Here, the mass [edit: I incorrectly said "mass" this should be "density"] of the black hole becomes infinite making the pull of gravity infinite. This was a problem that Einstein saw in his theory (as well as Kaku). String theory (of which I do not understand) seems to solve this problem in the allowing of many big bangs and different universes like a bunch of bubbles. If string theory is correct, the big bang was just another bubble among who knows how many other big bands and universes. Kaku doesn't think that Hawking's conclusion was correct - that because there was no time before the big bang, there is no god. Kaku claims that this doesn't leave room for how laws came about in the first place. I don't quite understand it, but that is a GOD AWFUL summation.
Are you sure about that?
The common train of thought is that black holes may be infinitely dense... however, the singularity is a point where volume goes to zero, not where mass goes to infinity.
Yeah, another subtlety is the reference to infinite gravity. While I'm not sure what that means, it seems problematic:
If you have a region that contains a mass of M, and a radius of R: if the mass then collapses to a black hole (with of course a smaller radius) the gravitational attraction of the black hole will be the same outside the original radius R, as it was before the collapse.
Or to make it a little more concrete: if the Earth somehow collapsed to a black hole, the orbit of the moon would not change.
Thanks Nyar, that makes sense!
It's been some time since I studied at college but I do peruse the odd book and journal from time to time.
String Theory is not a theory. It solves nothing. The Multiverse Theory is not a theory. It is a hypothesis at best. It currently explains nothing.
"Now, we come to the present day. Einstein's general relativity is still our leading theory of gravity, having passed every experimental and observational test tossed its way, from gravitational lensing to relativistic frame dragging to the decay of binary pulsar orbits, while three other fundamental forces -- electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces -- are described by quantum field theories. These two classes of theories are fundamentally incompatible and incomplete on their own, and indicate that there is more to the Universe than we currently understand, despite the success of the Standard Model and the need for a quantum theory of gravity."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2015/12/23/why-string-theor...
That does not mean it may not be useful some day. Currently you are putting the cart before the horse. You just do not get to make assertions without facts and evidence,
Let me point you to physicist Michio Kaku - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYAdwS5MFjQ
I'm basing what I said on the research of a well-known physicist.
Thank you, that was enjoyable...
However, it must be made clear the comment you made about black holes having infinite mass is wrong, rather they have infinite density...
I also never hear this mentioned in the video so I assume it was your thoughts.
And Cog is right, yes, it isn't a theory like say evolution and so on... string theory has never passed any tests... yet.
Let's hope.
Fair enough. I incorrectly stated that. I'll edit my post (while leaving the original). Here is what I was getting at though. Here is where Michio Kaku describes that gravity is infinite at the center of a black hole - this was the main point I intended to make in my original post.
Start at 17:00 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSmIooNI0g8
"Einstein's Equations break down at the point of the Big Bang" We know nothing beyond that. It is the limits of Modern Physics. Anything else is guessing. Even when it is guessing by a Theoretical Physicist.
You need to listen to him. Michio Kaku actually says ---- "String theory says there SHOULD BE." "NOT ARE" 1:01
"When one universe splits, two universes are created and THAT IS WHAT WE THINK: is the big bang. *(not 'IS' the big bang)/
NO FACTS - NO EVIDENCE - NOTHING BUT ASSERTION - NO THEORY OF ANYTHING AS NOTHING HAS BEEN PROVED.
"IF THERE ARE OTHER DIMENSIONS - IF THERE ARE OTHER UNIVERSES" 1:32 - NOT "(THERE ARE OTHER DIMENSIONS AND UNIVERSES.)"
He references "Alice in Wonderland???" Are you serious?
"One day we MIGHT create a wormhole between the universes" (That might exist - SEE ABOVE)." 1:44
You need to seriously improve your listening skills. STRING THEORY IS NOT A THEORY. You have based your opinion on Science fiction.
Neil deGrasse Tyson on String Theory (It's a pipe dream. I followed these guys for 27 years)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BAQBrUDl-0
Proof String Theory is Bullshit. String Theory is a scam to get money out of the general public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvGZ9aECp_g
Lee Smolin on string theory (full version) Physics has lost its way! Theory and experiment used to walk hand in hand. Now there is no support from experiment. Why is String Theory damaging to physics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_FG8kRVWkQ
Scientific Controversies No. 13: String Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHbXW-knGi8
String theory has done nothing for science, nothing for physics, nothing at all in 27 years.
Kurouma https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/3cyvih/has_string_theory_ma...
I am a conformal field theorist and work closely with string theorists by day. One could argue that the most prominent prediction of string theory is that there are extra spatial dimensions. This is not a priori, an absurd thing to want to determine, but at this time we do not have the physical means to test it.
Why String Theory is Wrong
Ramanujan: Making sense of 1+2+3+... = -1/12 and Co.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcKRGpMiVTw&list=PLud_VsSqlHmSXngHDL-4uC...
OPEN YOUR EARS!!!!
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