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Stop that you have no right to claim which is the true christian or christianity. Catholicism can be traced all the way back to the beginning of christianity so technically they are the only true christians as all the other cults branched off from it.
Dont forget JUDGE NOT lest you be judged.
Not so. But there are Baptist churches on the East coast of the United States that have papers that take their heritage back to the Disciples of Jesus Christ. The Catholic church is responsible for possibly more deaths of Christians than all the wars of history. They burned down entire towns because they wouldn't conform to their ways. Read the Foxes Book of Marters. The Catholic church was started by the Romans.
What kind of a hippocrite are you. First claiming Catholic's are like Hitler, then telling me not to say something bad about them.
That had to be one of the top ten most stupid and arrogant things you've posted.
Im going to enjoy this:
1 i told you hitler was catholic i DID NOT say catholics are hitler and i don't think anyone ever has said that lol.
2 i never said you cannot say bad things about catholics i doubt any non catholic would say you cant say bad things about them lol
What i did say is you have no right to say who is or is not a christian in fact your stupid book orders you not to. Don't you understand what judge not lest you be judged friggin means its pretty obvious don't fucking judge. You claiming catholics aren't christian is making a judgment based on your belief and nothing else you have no evidence to prove anything about your faith let alone anything about their faith both of your faiths have no evidence therefor the same probability of being real, slim to none.
Fact is by law by theologians by society catholics are a denomination of the cult of christianity. To top it off theres more of them (and their organisation is more powerful) than there are baptists lol
Now let me educate you a little
1.This is what Jesus said.
John 5:30 KJV
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
He is showing here that as long as you judge from God's word you are judging righteously. That's because it is what everyone is going to be judged by.
2. Most people like to leave out verse 2, so here it is so you can read both 1&2 together.
Matthew 7:1-2 KJV
Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
You see what this is saying, is that you are not to judge what you are willing to be judged for. For you will be judged according to how you judge. Here is a little example. If I judge you by telling you that you are not reading your bible enough, then I better be reading mine plenty, because I'm going to be judged in that same manner.
3. You can't always tell by the cover.
John 7:24 KJV
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
But as the Bible says:
Matthew 7:16-20 KJV
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
If you don't get this, it simply means that by their actions you can tell what someone believes.
4. Those who have been saved and learn of the things of God, gain the wisdom to do this.
1 Corinthians 2:15-16 KJV
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. [16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
5. I'll leave you to try and discern this one for now.
1 Corinthians 6:2-4 KJV
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? [3] Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? [4] If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church
The bottom line is that: God doesn't tell you not to judge and then turn around and tell you how to judge, which would be contradictory. Instead you are to: 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Rofl another stupidity god is not contradictory read you book there are hundreds if not thousands of contradictions.
By the way dosent change the fact you have no right to decide who is christian your not god your a prejudiced arrogant man
Nope I just go by God's word. You see there are many who try to change His word, or decide that they will decide how to get to Heaven. And they all believe work's is what it takes.
Matthew 7:21-23 KJV
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Oh and by the way whatever scripture you want to show me is contradicting, I can show you that you are wrong.
You obviously didn't read this scripture
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: [4] In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
You simply don't know because you have not the Holy Spirit within.
Thats a bullshit excuse. You dont believe so you cant understand. I can read english its written in english (badly transleted ofcourse) and im intelligent. If i dont understand something its because it does not make sense nomatter if you believe or not.
Simple contradiction god says dont kill god not only orders murder but also supposedly commits near genocide.
Oh yeah that's right you are smarter than God. NOT, He has more knowledge and wisdom than all that has, is, and will live. Oh yeah He knows everything, He can't learn because He made all the laws of the universe. That means every one of them. And He knows how to make a living word that He can keep from a lost man's understanding, and yet give perfect understanding to a little 9 year-old girl. I've seen some give amazing praises to God that blows away anything I've read in this debate.
Its called brainwashing i remind you AGAIN i was christian and it made sense to me untill i started to question.
By the way if your god is so smart how come the bibles so wrong about so many things lol
What is it wrong about?
You were never a Christian, I showed you by God's word that they who are saved are they who continue till the end.
You did no such thing you showed some words written by a MAN hundreds of years ago when it was illegal not to be christian.
I believed the bullshit just like you thankfully my brain rebelled when i started science at school and learned the bible was wrong about many things it still took 4 years to accept the truth thats why know religon is based on brainwashing.
Tell me what do you think should be done about the evil "Islamic State or ISSI." Do you think that there are any ways to reason with them?
Ahh, arguing reality with this fella is like taking a q-tip to a brick wall and expecting results.
But at least it's amusing to see the arrogance indoctrination creates right?
I have no problem being judged when I am judging from God's word. I can go into baptism ofbabies, to the things that are wrong with their mass, to how they hold Mary to be equal with Jesus. And more, just let me know.
Someone in an earlier post stated that the prophesies in the Bible were not true. But what about these ones.
God refers to Israel in the Old Testament as a fig tree. And Jesus said that Israel would be scattered around the world. He also said that the fig tree would blossom. Israel became a Nation again in 1948.
God also helped Israel as a very small country, and very few people overcome several other countries, within just 6 days.
Today more and more of the world is coming against Israel when it doesn't even make sense for them to. Because they are being attacked by a terrorist group that is trying to kill civilians in Israel and at the same time using their own civilians as shields. A reporter asked some of the Hamas fighters why they weren't aiming their rockets better. They answered by saying that they are aiming them right, but Israel's God is turning them. You would think that if someone thought that their enemies' God was that powerful, they would give up on attacking them. Some of their own rockets came right back down in the communities they were firing them from.
The bible also says that the Temple of God was going to be rebuilt. Now you won't hear about this on the news but there are people here in the U.S. that travel to Israel regularly that have seen some of this. The Jews have everything ready, from the garments to the hewn stones and all that go inside. They have also run off all the Muslims from the Temple mount. And many of the people are saying that if they want peace they will have to rebuild the Temple. They also said that they have the capability to construct the Temple in one day, as soon as they tear down the Muslims dome.
Prophesies are being fulfilled today. But before that Temple is built Jesus is going to take His church out of here. Time is running out.
Read this testimony
THE AWFUL DEATH OF SIR FRANCIS NEWPORT
Sir Francis Newport was trained in early life to understand the great truths of the gospel; and while in early manhood it was hoped that he would become an ornament and a blessing to his family and the nation, the result was far otherwise. He fell into company that corrupted his principles and his morals. He became an avowed infidel, and a life of dissipation soon brought on a disease that was incurable. When he felt that he must die, he threw himself on the bed, and after a brief pause, be exclaimed as follows: "Whence this war in my heart? What argument is there now to assist me against matters of fact? Do I assert that there is no hell, while I feel one in my own bosom? Am I certain there is no after retribution, when I feel present judgment? Do I affirm my soul to be as mortal as my body, when this languishes, and that is vigorous as ever? O that any one would restore unto me that ancient gourd of piety and innocence! Wretch that I am, whither shall I flee from this breast? What will become of me?"
An infidel companion tried to dispel his thoughts, to whom he replied. "That there is a God, I know, because I continually feel the effects of His wrath; that there is a hell I am equally certain, having received an earnest of my inheritance there already in my breast; that there is a natural conscience I now feel with horror and amazement, being continually upbraided by it with my impieties, and all my iniquities, and all my sins brought to my remembrance. Why God has marked me out for an example of His vengeance, rather than you, or any one of my acquaintance, I presume is because I have been more religiously educated, and have done greater despite to the Spirit of grace. O that I was to lie upon the fire that never is quenched a thousand years, to purchase the favor of Gods and be reunited to Him again! But it is a fruitless wish. Millions of millions of years will bring me no nearer to the end of my torments than one poor hour. O, eternity, eternity! Who can discover the abyss of eternity? Who can paraphrase upon these words -- forever and ever?"
Lest his friends should think him insane, he said: "You imagine me melancholy, or distracted. I wish I were either; but it is part of my judgment that I am not. No; my apprehension of persons and things is more quick and vigorous than it was when I was in perfect health; and it is my curse, because I am thereby more sensible of the condition I am fallen into. Would you be informed why I am become a skeleton in three or four days? See now, then. I have despised my Maker, and denied my Redeemer. I have joined myself to the atheist and profane, and continued this course under many convictions, till my iniquity was ripe for vengeance, and the just judgment of God overtook me when my security was the greatest, and the checks of my conscience were the least."
As his mental distress and bodily disease were hurrying him into eternity, he was asked if he would have prayer offered in his behalf; he turned his face, and exclaimed, "Tigers and monsters! are ye also become devils to torment me? Would ye give me prospect of heaven to make my hell more intolerable?"
Soon after, his voice failing, and uttering a groan of inexpressible horror, he cried out, "OH, THE INSUFFERABLE PANGS OF HELL!" and died at once, dropping into the very hell of which God gave him such an awful earnest, to be a constant warning to multitudes of careless sinners
And you posted this story for what reason? As evidence? As truth? If that is the case, I have some beachfront property at a very, very good price that you might be interested in purchasing.
I have a bridge to sell him too lol
Erm hell is eternal torture right so why the specific claim that god gave him ernest torture did the torturers slack off on other people and b isnt it supposed to be satan running hell not god lol
Ther are many professing atheists that have been recorded in their Seth beds.
God created he'll for the Devil and the other fallen angels. And He is the one as judge that puts man there to spend eternity with their father, Satan.
Makes one wonder, doesn't it?
Also I've always found the xian concept of 'hell' very odd... Eternal torture wouldn't be very effective. Human beings can be 'trained' to ignore pain after repeated injury.... Which is sadistic and cruel, but nonetheless true.
So thousands of years of torture... After a while people'd be so used to it (or, excuse me their 'soles') that it wouldn't qualify as torture anymore.
Unless it was repeatedly being subjected to terrible music. But that's not what they say it is, supposedly haha
Maybe but perhaps not, training to withstand pain requires (as far as we know) two things. A nervous system complete with natural painkillers that the body can make and concious willpower. Besides if an omni everything wants to make you suffer forever he will.
Either way the claimed (recently) explanation that hell is about punishment is a farce. Punishment without the chance for redemption or reformation is nothing but vindictive and spiteful torture, if Christianity is real their god is burning people that refused to believe without proof, and making smores with the flames while cackling "Here's your proof, believe in me now?" over.....and......over.....and......over.......forever, he is (allegedly) omnipresent so can personally visit every one of them simultaneously and continuously.
Hell is just an idea the church had to force people to believe in god through fear. The Jews don't even have a concept of hell which is pretty damning as they are 'gods chosen' so surely he would have warned them.
Just passing through, I am 'shouting from the rooftops' good guys win, Christians lose, scotus allows gay marrige woohooo!!!!! Fanfreakintastic.
Indeed! And thank you for being awesome good sir!
Did you just have a stroke?
Im guessing you were attempting to say there have been recorded confessions of atheists on their death beds.
So what? You havent heard of covering your bases just in case it does not mean they suddenly became theists before they died.
I should point out deathbed confessions are supposed to be private i guess your religion decided to break that rule to show up athiests. Just like it breaks and broke so many rules.
I should also point out sin is simply a concept made up by the bible. The bible is not a quote from god its written by men who decided what was a sin.
And we're are the rules that a death bed confession is to remain private. That's funny.
Not , you wouldn't have came up with the Bible and neither would other's. God stands on truth even when He shows that the nation He started didn't go in the right direction, and He had to put them into bondage in order to straighten them out. Man would have changed it to go along the lines of tv evangelism in that if you give them something you will have great riches and nothing will go wrong in your life.
But God tells the truth
Job 14:1 KJV
Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble.
That means all weather they are lost or saved.
Someone in an earlier post stated that the prophesies in the Bible were not true. But what about these ones.
God refers to Israel in the Old Testament as a fig tree. And Jesus said that Israel would be scattered around the world. He also said that the fig tree would blossom. Israel became a Nation again in 1948.
God also helped Israel as a very small country, and very few people overcome several other countries, within just 6 days.
Today more and more of the world is coming against Israel when it doesn't even make sense for them to. Because they are being attacked by a terrorist group that is trying to kill civilians in Israel and at the same time using their own civilians as shields. A reporter asked some of the Hamas fighters why they weren't aiming their rockets better. They answered by saying that they are aiming them right, but Israel's God is turning them. You would think that if someone thought that their enemies' God was that powerful, they would give up on attacking them. Some of their own rockets came right back down in the communities they were firing them from.
The bible also says that the Temple of God was going to be rebuilt. Now you won't hear about this on the news but there are people here in the U.S. that travel to Israel regularly that have seen some of this. The Jews have everything ready, from the garments to the hewn stones and all that go inside. They have also run off all the Muslims from the Temple mount. And many of the people are saying that if they want peace they will have to rebuild the Temple. They also said that they have the capability to construct the Temple in one day, as soon as they tear down the Muslims dome.
Prophesies are being fulfilled today. But before that Temple is built Jesus is going to take His church out of here. Time is running out.
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