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@God is AWESOME
Hey that is great god has been so faithful to you. I personally have not noticed god being faithful to anyone, (not even really sure what that means, but I am assuming something positive.)
Totally understand the want to live forever, we all fear death. If it works for you great.
Thanks for the "kind" words on thinking I will be saved. I am not going to begrudge someone wanting the best for me. Sounds to me like you are a nice guy, trying to help "save" people where you can.
But I do have a problem with your religion, and its concept of god. Don't feel like I am only against your particular religion though, I feel this for every major religion I ever heard of, with some being far worse than others.
I think religions are overall a net negative, even if it does help people feel better sometimes. I feel the system nearly all religions employ to bolster their ranks and to perpetuate their religion is terrible, especially the part where they brainwash children while they are young and impressionable is particularly heinous. (Not to mention the history of war and bloodshed nearly all the major religions have taken a central role in.)
I would be fine with people coming to atheist debate boards to discuss their god, if I did not know underneath, they are also pushing their beliefs on kids not old enough to defend themselves with tools such as critical thinking, and then set people up for a lifetime of confusion and perhaps worse.
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"Even on your deathbed..... YES, eternal life. There is no better news than the gospel. EVER."
Game of Thrones is way way better. In fact I find the unevidenced superstitious guff in the gospels, coming as it does decades after the fact from unknown authors, and making risible claims that outrage reason and defy known physiological facts to be beyond tedious. You have to literally have blind faith to view that nonsense as anything but risible superstitious hokum, from a time where ignorance and superstition were ubiquitous.
A being that engages in eternal torture is the very opposite of "love".
If Jesus died for our sins and the salvation is complete, then no action is required on our behalf in order to be "saved". The truth is, your dogma says that people will be tortured for refusing to worship a being that engaged in torture. In no sense then is this salvation nonsense complete and finished. In no sense is Jesus not forsaking people by putting them through misery and ultimately torturing them for eternity.
I believed that Jesus was the Christ, died for our sins, etc. I'm assuming my beliefs were very similar to yours. I loved God more than anything. My whole heart desired just to serve him with all that I had. I was not afraid of God. The deep fear that I had was when I began to doubt that He existed. That terrified me because I had been taught that my life would be worthless without God (luckily, that's not true). I'd loved God more that anything, and it broke my heart to think that he might not be real. That's when I begged for him to help me keep hold of my faith. I prayed for this for 3 years while also talking to Christian mentors and attending a Christian university. But in the end, I came to see that God did not exist. It wasn't that he'd turned his back on me, he simply wasn't there.
I guess I'm sharing this with you because I see many Christians (including me, back in the day) who believe that all ex-Christians either didn't really love/believe in Jesus/God to begin with, or that they decided they wanted to disobey God and live their own sinful lives without being accountable. That was not the case for me at all. I was devastated and it took me many further years to heal, once I saw how damaging that indoctrination had been.
Bullshit "God is AWESOME". Stone Jade gave us a very real story, one many of us atheists also performed. We sought out something divine, we got on our hands and knees many times, and sincerely prayed and hoped. So the absolute crap about why god did not reveal itself leads to only one conclusion. Thousand have tried this method, and it has failed.
God is AWESOME
When did it first occur to you that the "game" is driven by lying about one's abilities and experiences?
God is awesome, you asserted, “Just because you haven’t seen God with your eyes, doesn’t mean he isn’t real.
He says he makes himself known to those who seek Him. If you seek me with all of your heart, I will be found of you he said.”
I assert the following: Just because you haven’t seen Jerry the magic green chinchilla with your eyes, doesn’t mean he isn’t real. He says he makes himself known to those who seek him. If you seek me with all your heart, I will be found of you he said.”
Now, have you sought Jerry with all your heart? Because, if you have not found him, you need to try harder.
I actually kind of like "God is Awesome".
He/she/zhe provides a departure from most of the other theists we usually hear from. HSZ provides pure preaching and no pretense at all about rational discourse. It's really rather refreshing. This is really the niche for religious zealotry and I for one can only applaud.
You’re pretty neat there yourself, and very friendly.
I totally agree.
It really is quite refreshing to see a genuine christian who has, as is necessary, cast logic, reason and reality to the four winds and based their entire rigid life on a delusion.
That it is fostered by others is rather sad...but hey lets see if she can cast a tree into the lake by faith (No bulldozers allowed) ! That should prove her faith is real!
Doesn't this bollocks being spouted here not remind everyone else of the Santa claus stories as a child???
"If you really, really, really believe and try with all your heart, he will bring you presents".
Time to grow up chap.
Who is this "He" GiA keeps referring to?
I've found God, and they should definitely be referred to as "She".
Jerry, the chinchilla is a male. I looked.
I agree LostLocke,
If there was some sort of greater being that created well everything, you would think calling it she would be more appropriate then he. After all, women have created all of us. Every single last one of us that has ever lived has been created by women (with a little dna help from men.)
Of course the whole anthropomorphizing of some greater entity that created all this (if one actually did exist) is also just another example of (obvious to me anyways) giant clue that humans created the god idea. And more specifically, that men did.
Let’s cut the bullshit. Millions of people pray for shit everyday. Some people get their prayer “answered”, some don’t. Why is that? Are you gonna say that their faith isn’t strong enough? How about the old standby “it’s not god’s will”? If YOU are able to heal the sick or cast out demons, you should be at hospitals curing cancer by the truckloads! Show evidence, it’s all that is asked of you.
...*sitting in last pew at very back of church*.... *squirming uncomfortably in seat*... *raising hand high*... Uh, pardon me, Miss God-Awful - (Oh, crap. Whoops. Excuse me.) - uh, Miss God-Awesome. When do we get to go downstairs for cookies and kool-aide? My tummy is starting to grumble. And I have to pee really bad... *rocking back and forth anxiously*... *both hands covering crotch area*...
@God is AWESOME: FFS... I snorted coffee out my nose and nearly pissed myself laughing. Great Post. I have no heard anything so stupid since the last time creationists assaulted the site. GREAT PARODY!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha .... I love it.... *Whiny Voice* "Just because you haven't seen god doesn't mean he isn't real." Waaaaaaa! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ,.,,,,, funny stuff. ROFLMAO!
"Closed heart." Ha ha ha ha ha ha ...... Can you imagine a heart closing..... Ha ha ha ha ha ha *Heart Attack. - You're Dead.* Ha ha ha ha .... spoken just like one of those ignoramus Christians. You are going to be fun to have around. "Your Mind Is Closed - Come to the Dark Side Luke" You are departing from the living god. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ......
"Seek him with your heart." FACE PALM - *Of course, why didn't I think of that! *
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE HIM WITH YOUR EYES. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Or.... or ..... or..... I could seek him with my left big toe ..... Oh Oh! I got it! I could use my penis as a divining rod.. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ,.,,,, *Swinging the mighty sausage through the air.* "Is he over there? Over there?" *Add a bit of hip thrust for exaggeration.* "Over there!!!" Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .... good luck with that heart thing. I'm using the mighty sausage.
Of course of course - You gotta finish with John 3:16. Ha ha ha ha ha. Nothing else would make this parody look believable. Can you imagine finishing with Luke 14. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ..... one of those verses the Christians never read.
“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple
A disciple is another word for a follower of Christ, one who is learning to be like his Master. As a disciple you follow Jesus Christ, who is the Master and by living like Him you become more like Him. (Matthew 16:24; 1 Peter 2:21-22)... More
.” Luke 14:26.
Or how about finishing with ummmm..... Oh I know. If you do not bow down and kiss Jesus's ass he will put your soul into a pig and chase it off a cliff. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ....... GREAT POST! LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE OF THE SAME. WELCOME TO THE SITE!
Why won't this guy answer my question? What is he afraid of? I guess he is not hear to learn, just to proselytize. How typical.
@doG: Just another drive by mushroom attack. You know mushrooms can not be out in the light of day for too long without dissolving. He simply made his comments and ran back to the damp, dank, darkness of the candle lit pews from which he sprang. When you live in a world of bullshit and darkness, you really can't be out in the light of day for too long. Sunlight makes you smell funny.
You answer my question as if you were him...k?
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
I hate to break it to you GiA but your entire faith is a lie, an untruth based on a political necessity of the 3rd century CE. Like most christians (especially the preachy kind) you have zero understanding of the history of your religion.
This makes your entire message rather sad. You seem to have a potential to do so much in the world but you are shackled to the lies of medieval priests and kings intent on retaining the power they had and have over the populace. In fact you actively participate in the lies which makes you a bit of a criminal, aiding and abetting a fraudulent act, participating in a violent act upon a third person, and inappropriate touching.
Oh and your Jesus figure? The magical one? Just did not exist. He was made up. Whether a real man existed, as a man, maybe, but your redeemer/messiah/saviour figure? A product of literary imagination.
Have a great life, but try reading some history before you start preaching.
Unlike you I have the evidence for my assertions.
Jesus is the truth.
He said I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. No man comes to the Father, but by me.
If you believe the gospel which means Good News is sad, you don’t understand it.
You have no proof God does not exist.
G is A, you wrote, “You have no proof God does not exist.”
Do you think that an atheist is defined as one who believes god(s) do not exist?
If so, you are incorrect.
Perfect theist response, preach then attempt a woeful reversal of the burden of proof.
Atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. It is not a statement that a god or gods do not exist.
Ok, Once more into the breach...... lets go for the absence of evidence is evidence of absence shall we? Are you prepared to be educated?
I will make a claim: "there is no contemporary evidence for the existence of a jesus figure as described in the gospels."
Please produce any evidence to the contrary.
(Edit: definition of atheism)
"You have no proof God does not exist."
So you believe in them all then?
What exactly does the evidence for a non-existent thing look like I wonder?