ryan - Fred Hoyle stated the odds of the simple cell being created are like a tornado creating a Boeing 747.

No one knows the probability of that happening. No one knows if it is small (close to 0) or large (close to 1).
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ryan - The mass energy density is .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000138 and it cant be any different.

The answer to any question is 17, in some units; that is why a number without units is meaningless. What units are you using?

Also your notion that the value you wrote is exact is problematic.

@ryan
You made a lot of statements that just don't make any sense.
Your first problem is the "evidence" that you offered. None of it is any good, NOT because we are atheists, but because they just aren't any good. they can't pass scrutiny. That is why I said I can't wait until Nyar gets a hold of what you posted. Nyar and Logic are just holding back. As well as Sheldon. They will shred you to pieces and do it without insulting you. Me, on the other hand, will rip what you posted in the meanest way possible. That is just who I am.
You say that you are "nice" because of your belief. That isn't the way it works. If you need the threat of religion to adjust your behavior you are not being honest with yourself or anyone else.
You keep referring to YouTube videos as if they are worthy of consideration. Don't kid yourself, they aren't! There is a reason that we rely on sound logic as atheists, a reason that we turn to science, math, REAL history, for our facts. The reason is that every fact has been scrutinized, peer-reviewed, independently tested, verified.
You keep saying that you have come to a conclusion. You have not. You have JUMPED to a conclusion. You haven't reached anything that can even remotely be considered a valid conclusion.
You say it is hard being "wrong all the time". Well, YOU made that choice. When you bring false evidence based on a predetermined conclusion supported by evidence that has been altered to fit a narrative, you are going to be wrong all the time.
here's the thing. Christianity is arrogant and ignorant. To be a christian you have to be indoctrinated and or brainwashed. It defies logic at a very base level. At some point, you have to just accept what is not only improbable but also impossible. You have to take a "leap of faith" and accept what has been dictated to you.
Take any well-known debate between an atheist and a believer. The christians in an audience will conclude that the believer won the debate. They come with a predetermined outcome. They ignore everything the atheists presents. The fact is that no one has ever even remotely proven a god. Therefore no believer has ever won a debate about the existence of a god.
We have read it heard it and seen it all from christians. The complexity theory, the intelligent design theory, the "just look around you theory, even the lame "I desire there to be a god so there must be a god theory. Believers like to use pseudo-science, revisionist history, fuzzy numbers, purposely redefined terminology, as arguments and they STILL have never proved their god. As Rambo said over 200 years and still no evidence.
NDEs are hearsay and cannot be tested and therefore not admissible as factual evidence! Not one shred of the bible is verified and the bible is not evidence of itself. Testimony is not evidenced unless corroborated and verified. It is exhausting just pointing all the mistakes and holes in the theories that believers bring. It's like all believers want atheists to do all the hard work. Well, we have, that is why we are atheists. I don't know many atheists that were not christian before they actually became atheists. Most of us if not all have done extensive research into the god myth. Logically, scientifically, and historically! All I see from christians that come here are word salad that they get from some screwball that preachers nonsense to them. So, if you want to be taken seriously if you are tired of being wrong all the time, YOU need to do the hard work that we atheists have already done. It's easy being a christian. You have an institution that produces bullshit for you to just repeat. Of course, it is wrong and illogical, but it is already out there for you to access and use. Atheists are all alone. We don't rely on ANY propaganda, there is no institution producing mounds of literature for us to access and use. We are shunned, ostracized, and face prejudice everywhere we go. Our very lives are threatened at times simply because we don't accept the lies and propaganda that religions spew. So, sure, you are going to feel a little heat for what you write/post here. You'd better be spot on accurate. But it isn't any harder than we atheists are on ourselves. So you can produced some earth shattering evidence that is testable, corroborated, verified, solid fact, or you are just going to be wrong all the time!