Is the God of The Bible just?

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Nyarlathotep's picture
chimp3 - E2 to E4! E7-E5

chimp3 - E2 to E4!


Mark Townsend's picture
Atheists say they do not need

Atheists say they do not need God to have virtue. But divine education is what has always saved humanity, and the ignorance of it is what has always endangered us. –marko
“There are some who imagine that an innate sense of human dignity will prevent man from committing evil actions and insure his spiritual and material perfection. That is, that an individual who is characterized with natural intelligence, high resolve, and a driving zeal, will, without any consideration for the severe punishments consequent on evil acts, or for the great rewards of righteousness, instinctively refrain from inflicting harm on his fellow men and will hunger and thirst to do good. And yet, if we ponder the lessons of history it will become evident that this very sense of honor and dignity is itself one of the bounties deriving from the instructions of the Prophets of God. We also observe in infants the signs of aggression and lawlessness, and that if a child is deprived of a teacher's instructions his undesirable qualities increase from one moment to the next. It is therefore clear that the emergence of this natural sense of human dignity and honor is the result of education. Secondly, even if we grant for the sake of the argument that instinctive intelligence and an innate moral quality would prevent wrongdoing, it is obvious that individuals so characterized are as rare as the philosopher's stone.” (Abdu'l-Baha, The Secret of Divine Civilization, p. 97)

SBMontero's picture


Yes, it's true, nobody has murdered anyone in the name of god after studying in a Koranic school, or a Christian school, it's true, so much so that the murdered cannot be counted by millions... hypocrite of shit, fucking smoker seller.

mykcob4's picture
BULLSHIT marko. Morality does

BULLSHIT marko. Morality does not come from a god. I don't know how many times I have had to prove this fact over and over. Morality comes from the society that dictates it. You say that history proves what you assert AND that WE obsevere but you don't back that up with proof and facts. It is just a statement by you.

Also, there is NO study of babies being left to their own devices. None, nada, zip, zilch. No one has isolated and baby and observed that baby. No baby has ever been purposely raised without instruction or affection and observed in a study. So you lied marko!

Either provide sources and proof or just shut the fuck up. Your opinion is not fact!

phetaroi's picture
Well, if Abdul Baha says it,

Well, if Abdul Baha says it, it must be true.

chimp3's picture
I say there is no god.

I say there is no god. Therefore any moral principle assigned to fake gods can now be recognized as human in origin.

Pitar's picture
I have to dismiss out of hand

I have to dismiss out of hand anyone who would uphold/support biblical verse and consider it their moral and ethical responsibility to champion in any cogent debate when its antithesis of evidence all along man's historicity is so well in hand as to discharge all of its claims as a hoax. Or, said another way, only the uneducated tend to be moved by theism's agents, one being the bible, and allow themselves to be bloodied by it. I do understand the nature of the religious meme complex that consumes weak people and keeps them that way by ascribing evil to all that would detract from the meme's confines. But, courage is not really a virtue religions can claim as one of their stellar features so we expect what we get from them and their agents.

SunDog's picture
Let's hear it!

How can any rational, ethical person say the bible is just? Just for who? It certainly isn't just for atheists! lol - The Bible: Just For Atheists!

David_Holloway's picture
@ beleevur

@ beleevur

I have never believed in TGOTB, I clearly remember being 6 years old talking up to the sky, saying that if God really existed bad things wouldn't happen in the world (in regards to the Ethiopian famine). But until recently I did believe in a deity of some sort. But I have realised that believing in a deity is a knowledge gap filler, and as such it stops the pursuit of knowledge.

It does make me make me seriously wonder why adults, grown readonable and responsible, can easily laugh at the notion that there are fairies, unicorns, leprechauns, the tooth fairy and Father Christmas but can seriously say, with a straight face, that there is a magical being who is control everything and intervenes in everything. I don't see how disbelief in the latters and belief in the former are mutually exclusive.

Johnny's picture
Agnostic Prophet: Do you

Agnostic Prophet: Do you believe that there could be things that exists that we are not currently aware of? Are there things that we can't see, that exist? Has there ever been a time when we discovered things that we didn't believe or know existed but learned at a later time that they did exist? Could there be things that exist that are not perceived by our usual sensory perceptions, but by some other means? A means we are not even conscious of. Multiplied millions (a conservative figure, billions is more likely) of people, over the course of human history have testified that they have had encounters with a "spiritual realm", a realm not commonly experienced by human beings. These encounters and experiences don't remain constant, they come and go and many times are only experienced by a single individual, and even when others are present, these "others" aren't aware of what the single individual is encountering even though they are present with them. Since so many have testified of experiences or encounters that are not in the norm, that are, to the best of our knowledge experiences, or encounters that can't be explained thru the usual means, that is thru sight, sound, touch, smell, taste - isn't this something we should look into and give honest consideration to. I'm not saying that we should unquestionably accept anything. But that we should concede that something is behind all of this and begin to try and learn just what is behind all of this? Certainly some of these things are, no doubt aberrations, but are all? Given their sheer numbers I contend that they are not. I have had encounters with God, I can't present empirical evidence of these encounters, does me not being able to present empirical evidence of these encounters incontrovertibly establish that these alleged encounters were not genuine encounters with a supreme being? Or does it mean that the encounter was of an internal nature? A private nature. Or of some other nature. That - some other explanation, that we can't currently ascertain - is at work? Are we possessed of an infinite intelligence? Is it possible that there are things that are past finding out? Aren't our intellectual faculties capable of misjudgment? Do we ever misinterpret what our sensory perceptions deliver to us? Aren't we all fallible and finite human beings? If all we're going to trust in is our human faculties, we're trusting in something that has been proven over and over again to be faulty. It's for this reason that I urge you and all that are reading this post, that you make an appeal to the divine mind, one incapable of any possibility of error or miscalculation (that is unless you think a being that created the universe is capable of mistakes) to bring himself to your attention and enable you to experience his presence and power, his reality. If you do that from an honest heart and get no response, than this creator I speak of won't have a leg to stand on, on judgment day. You'll be able to say I ask you to reveal yourself to me and you didn't. But trust me dear friends, if you do ask God with and honest heart to bring himself to your attention, he will, I can't say, when, or how, or where, I leave that in his able hands, as you should, but be assured he will. He will reveal to you the mystery of his will...Ephesians 1:9-10 (KJV)

Nyarlathotep's picture
beleevur - Multiplied

beleevur - Multiplied millions (a conservative figure, billions is more likely) of people, over the course of human history have testified that they have had encounters with a "spiritual realm", a realm not commonly experienced by human beings...Certainly some of these things are, no doubt aberrations, but are all? Given their sheer numbers I contend that they are not.

Argumentum ad populum

Johnny's picture
Thank you Nyarlathotep. I

Thank you Nyarlathotep. I stand corrected. Strike "Given their sheer numbers I contend that they are not". Now let me restate. Given these vast numbers I believe it would be unreasonable to conclude that there is no merit at all to these testimonies. Certainly the testimony of so many should compel us to explore further and not so readily dismiss the possibility that something very real could be behind them.

Darren Koch's picture
Agnostic Prophet- you mention

Agnostic Prophet- you mention the existence of famines, for example, as one of many terrible realities of the human experience that may lead some to doubt the existence of a "just" God. Do you think God should be held accountable for these disasters, or unjust humans that throw away as much food as they eat, or unjust governments that prohibit aid from reaching those who need it? I would contend that God has provided plenty of food for all...greed and gluttony keeps it from reaching those in need.

mykcob4's picture
Prove it, Sinner! Prove that

Prove it, Sinner! Prove that a god, your god provided anything.

Darren Koch's picture
Go look in your fridge. He

Go look in your fridge. He provided life, which is required for food. U saying Earth can't provide enough food for its population?

mykcob4's picture
@ Sinner

@ Sinner
1) Looking in my fridge doesn't prove a god exists or provided anything. It doesn't prove a god exists or provided life.
2) I never said "Earth can't provide enough food for its population?" not even once in my entire life as far as I can tell or remember. This is evidence that you do lie to further your argument.

LostLocke's picture
Looking in my fridge proves

Looking in my fridge proves that the things I see in my fridge exist.
I could just as easily say that looking my fridge proves the existence of Lolth, Queen of the Underdark.
You can't just go from point A to point B without a connection or bridge.

Darren Koch's picture
Not lying, see Agnostic

Not lying, see Agnostic Prophet's post that refers to Ethiopia starvation. My post was addressing the just God/ starvation idea as it were. This isn't the "prove God is real" thread.

mykcob4's picture
You did lie to me Sinner. You

You did lie to me Sinner. You said that I said the Earth cannot feed itself. I never said that.

Darren Koch's picture
Not lying, see Agnostic

Not lying, see Agnostic Prophet's post that refers to Ethiopia starvation. My post was addressing the just God/ starvation idea as it were. This isn't the "prove God is real" thread.

mykcob4's picture
But you addressed ME Sinner,

But you addressed ME Sinner, not Agnostic Prophet. You said that I..ME...said that the world could not feed itself.
Also, If you say to look in my fridge and that is proof that a god gave us food, then it is a prove your god thread. You can't just say "look in your fridge" and assume that because I have food in my fridge that a god provided it.
You either prove that he/she/it did or don't make such a fucking stupid statement. It is YOU making a claim that a god provided food and your proof is that I have food. That is fucking insane!
So you are lying about what I said, and you are making a false claim which is also lying!

Nyarlathotep's picture
mykcob4 - So you are lying

mykcob4 - So you are lying about what I said, and you are making a false claim which is also lying!

I have met a lot of honest Christians, but I have never met an honest apologist. I have a friend who is a pretty decent dude, but he's an amateur apologist; and the instant he starts trying to convince people god is real; he can't help but spew lies out of his mouth. I've often described it as the noble lie; that it seems it is OK to lie to bring people to god, since that is the greater good. But that is just speculation on my part.

Johnny's picture
God doesn't inspire anyone to

God doesn't inspire anyone to lie. Nor are lies necessarily to lead people to faith in Jesus Christ.

The definition of lying: Telling someone something that's not true, knowing that it's not true, in an effort to get them to believe that it is true.

Lying is not so simple as uttering a falsehood. What one utters may be a lie, but the person uttering it doesn't know it's a lie (a falsehood) so they are not lying. (A lot of this does go on)

phetaroi's picture
I agree with you. Lies are

I agree with you. Lies are not necessary. Ignorance and naivety are.

Darren Koch's picture
MYKCOB4- Is the dude that

MYKCOB4- Is the dude that claimed Hitler was a Catholic and Nazi genicide was carried out in the name of Christianity calling me a liar? U wanna be the pot, or the kettle?

mykcob4's picture

1) I did prove that Hitler was a catholic.
2) He did carry out atrocities in the name of christianity.
So I am neither the pot or the kettle.

algebe's picture


I think Christians should stop pointing to the monsters of the 20th century--Hitler, Stalin, Mao--as examples of evil caused by atheism. When you lift up those rocks, you'll find all sorts of foul religious vermin underneath.

Darren Koch's picture
MYKCOB4- how did u prove

MYKCOB4- how did u prove Hitler was Catholic? Cuz he said so? Do u believe everything Hitler said? Do u believe he did, in fact, discover the "final solution" that would ensure the success of the Fatherland? He said so, so I guess you do.

He was not a Christian. You need a history lesson, maybe save a little embarrassment.

mykcob4's picture


“The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the
character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has
never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred
years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its
amendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has been
rejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can be
built up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory or
irreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so long
as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it.”

[Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, _The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”

[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a
political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on
his personal Christian feelings. Published in “My New Order”, quoted
in Freethought Today April 1990]

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

“What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of the
fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission
assigned to it by the Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]

“This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the
practical existence of a religious belief.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]

“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his
estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove
those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]

“Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another… while the
enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.309]

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”

[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]

“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be
wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in
a fanatical outlook.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, p. 171]

“I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn
splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the
abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my
father, the highest and most desirable ideal.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 1]

“I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from
time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. At
all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man
and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna’s destinies: Dr.
Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 2]

“…the unprecedented rise of the Christian Social Party… was to
assume the deepest significance for me as a classical object of study.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people
fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether
Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly
at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single
holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to
his own heaven.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as long
as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and
ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the
scheming of political parties.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions of
his people must always remain inviolable; or else has no right to be
in politics, but should become a reformer, if he has what it takes!

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement was
wanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct and

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scale
propaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychological
instincts of the broad masses of its adherents.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“If Dr. Karl Lueger had lived in Germany, he would have been ranked
among the great minds of our people.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3, about the leader of
the Christian Social movement]

“Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy
enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an
overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted
to live at this time.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 5]

“I had so often sung ‘Deutschland u:ber Alles’ and shouted ‘Heil’ at
the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of
grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the
eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 5]

“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very
first prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can always
and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence
which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering
and uncertain.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 5]

“I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true art
which has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Only
the Christian- Social movement, especially in Lueger’s time achieved
a certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of its

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 6]

“Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along
the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord’s grace
smiled on His ungrateful children.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 7, reflecting on World
War I]

“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,
the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it
continues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, the
founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of
this earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only the
weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,
however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a
universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other
great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin
Luther as well as Richard Wagner.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,
against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general
views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. The
first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is
the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In
late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution
which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to
humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who
with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the
poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like
a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of
fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will
hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,
particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,
posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations
of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,
and cultural idea.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the Cultural
Warfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]

“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought
to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from
now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to
profane the Almighty.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in
order to win new followers for their doctrine– an activity which can
boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the
Mohammedan faith in particular– right here in Europe they lose
millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all
religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences,
particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“The great masses of people do not consist of philosophers; precisely
for the masses, faith is often the sole foundation of a moral
attitude. The various substitutes have not proved so successful from
the standpoint of results that they could be regarded as a useful
replacement for previous religious creeds. But if religious doctrine
and faith are really to embrace the broad masses, the unconditional
authority of the content of this faith is the foundation of all

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“Due to his own original special nature, the Jew cannot possess a
religious institution, if for no other reason because he lacks
idealism in any form, and hence belief in a hereafter is absolutely
foreign to him. And a religion in the Aryan sense cannot be imagined
which lacks the conviction of survival after death in some form.
Indeed, the Talmud is not a book to prepare a man for the hereafter,
but only for a practical and profitable life in this world.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 11]

“The best characterization is provided by the product of this
religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world,
and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his
nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the
new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude
toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to
drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who
then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his
business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while
our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for
Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles
with atheistic Jewish parties– and this against their own nation.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 11]

“….the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil
assumes the living shape of the Jew.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 11, precisely echoing
Martin Luther’s teachings]

“Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less to
change than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and the
impetus to the mightiest upheavals on this earth has at all times
consisted less in a scientific knowledge dominating the masses than
in a fanaticism which inspired them and sometimes in a hysteria which
drove them forward.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 1 Chapter 12]

“The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in this
world lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which,
fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes its
will against all others.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 1 Chapter 12]

“The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations
for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient
world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for
its own doctrine.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 1 Chapter 12]

“All in all, this whole period of winter 1919-20 was a single
struggle to strengthen confidence in the victorious might of the
young movement and raise it to that fanaticism of faith which can
move mountains.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 1 Chapter 12]

“Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable
stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the
fight for the ‘remaking’ of the Reich as they call it.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 1]

“Of course, even the general designation ‘religious’ includes various
basic ideas or convictions, for example, the indestructibility of the
soul, the eternity of its existence, the existence of a higher being,
etc. But all these ideas, regardless of how convincing they may be
for the individual, are submitted to the critical examination of this
individual and hence to a fluctuating affirmation or negation until
emotional divination or knowledge assumes the binding force of
apodictic faith. This, above all, is the fighting factor which makes
a breach and opens the way for the recognition of basic religious

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 1]

“Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord
commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and
contributes to the expulsion from paradise.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 1]

“A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage from the
level of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it the
consecration of an institution which is called upon to produce images
of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 2]

“It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man in
this world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying Negroes
with missions which they neither desire nor understand, would kindly,
but in all seriousness, teach our European humanity that where
parents are not healthy it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity on
a poor little healthy orphan child and give him father and mother,
than themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only bring
unhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest of the world.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 2]

“That this is possible may not be denied in a world where hundreds
and hundreds of thousands of people voluntarily submit to celibacy,
obligated and bound by nothing except the injunction of the Church.
Should the same renunciation not be possible if this injunction is
replaced by the admonition finally to put an end to the constant and
continuous original sin of racial poisoning, and to give the Almighty
Creator beings such as He Himself created?”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 2]

“For the greatest revolutionary changes on this earth would not have
been thinkable if their motive force, instead of fanatical, yes,
hysterical passion, had been merely the bourgeois virtues of law and

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 2]

“It doesn’t dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this is
positively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy to
keep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made a
lawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-
race must remain in entirely unworthy positions; that it is a sin
against the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings by
the hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate in
the present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs are
trained for intellectual professions.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 2]

“It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life,
but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 2]

“Christianity could not content itself with building up its own
altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the
heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its
apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 5]

“For how shall we fill people with blind faith in the correctness of
a doctrine, if we ourselves spread uncertainty and doubt by constant
changes in its outward structure? …Here, too, we can learn by the
example of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice, and in
part quite superfluously, comes into collision with exact science and
research, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as one
little syllable of its dogmas… it is only such dogmas which lend to
the whole body the character of a faith.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 5]

“The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in
his own denomination, of making people stop just talking
superficially of God’s will, and actually fulfill God’s will, and not
let God’s word be desecrated. For God’s will gave men their form,
their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is
declaring war on the Lord’s creation, the divine will.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 10]

“In the ranks of the movement [National Socialist movement], the most
devout Protestant could sit beside the most devout Catholic, without
coming into the slightest conflict with his religious convictions.
The mighty common struggle which both carried on against the
destroyer of Aryan humanity had, on the contrary, taught them
mutually to respect and esteem one another.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 10]

“For this, to be sure, from the child’s primer down to the last
newspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertising
pillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of this
one great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlor
patriots: ‘Lord, make us free!’ is transformed in the brain of the
smallest boy into the burning plea: ‘Almighty God, bless our arms
when the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge now
whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!’

[Adolf Hitler’s prayer, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 2 Chapter 13]

“The Government, being resolved to undertake the political and moral
purification of our public life, are creating and securing the
conditions necessary for a really profound revival of religious life”

[Adolph Hitler, in a speech to the Reichstag on March 23, 1933]


Berlin Churches Establish Bureau to Win Back Worshippers

Wireless to the New York Times.

BERLIN, May 13. – In Freethinkers Hall, which before the Nazi
resurgence was the national headquarters of the German Freethinkers
League, the Berlin Protestant church authorities have opened a bureau
for advice to the public in church matters. Its chief object is to
win back former churchgoers and assist those who have not previously
belonged to any religious congregation in obtaining church membership.

The German Freethinkers League, which was swept away by the national
revolution, was the largest of such organizations in Germany. It had
about 500,000 members …”

[New York Times, May 14, 1933, page 2, on Hitler’s outlawing of
atheistic and freethinking groups in Germany in the Spring of 1933,
after the Enabling Act authorizing Hitler to rule by decree]

“I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of a

[Adolf Hitler, Speech, 15 March 1936, Munich, Germany.]

“The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost
duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It
will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation
has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our
national morality, and the family as the basis of national life….”

[Adolf Hitler, Berlin, February 1, 1933]

“Today Christians … stand at the head of [this country]… I pledge
that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy
Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian
spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in
literature, in the theater, and in the press – in short, we want to
burn out the *poison of immorality* which has entered into our whole
life and culture as a result of *liberal excess* during the past …
(few) years.”

[The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford
University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872]

Yes Sinner if I were you I'd be embarrassed. Hitler was a christian and a catholic. I just gave you a history lesson!

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Thank you for posting this.

Thank you for posting this. I have often heard Hitler's religion questioned. I was just too lazy to research it.


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